Re: Minimal Logics in the 2020's: A Meteoric Rise --- eternal september failure

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Sujet : Re: Minimal Logics in the 2020's: A Meteoric Rise --- eternal september failure
De : richard (at) *nospam* damon-family.org (Richard Damon)
Groupes : sci.logic comp.theory
Date : 11. Jul 2024, 02:01:58
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On 7/10/24 9:58 AM, olcott wrote:
On 7/8/2024 7:37 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 7/8/24 8:28 PM, olcott wrote:
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Every expression of language that cannot be proven
or refuted by any finite or infinite sequence of
truth preserving operations connecting it to its
meaning specified as a finite expression of language
is rejected.
>
>
So?
>
Tarski's x like Godel's G are know to be true by an infinite sequence of truth preserving operations.
>
 Every time that you affirm your above error you prove
yourself to be a liar.
What error?
We know, that in the system the statements are made, tehre is an infinite chain of truth preserving operationf from teh fundamental truths of the sytsems to the conclusion.
We know that because in a meta-theory we can develop additional knowledge allowing us to see the infinite chain, with something like an induction property or something else that reduces the infinite to finite.

 On 7/8/2024 9:59 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
 > No, infinite "proofs" determine TRUTH, not knowledge.
 You could just say, "I didn't say that correctly"
and we would be done.
Right, an infinite "proof", in quotes because that is the term YOU use, even though there is no such thing, but in actuality it is an infinite chain of truth preserving operations  DO establish that something is True in the system, but by being infinite, we can never dirrectly follow that path to know it. But, there may be a meta-theory that gives us a short-cut path (like in Godel or Tarski) where we know that the statement is true, and thus can show that the infinite chain does exist.
The fact you can't understand that just shows your stupidity.

 *I am going to keep hammering you on this over-and-over*
*I am going to keep hammering you on this over-and-over*
*I am going to keep hammering you on this over-and-over*
And I will keep on pointing out yor STUPID LIES.

 People need to know that you lie in your reviews of my work
People need to know that you lie in your reviews of my work
People need to know that you lie in your reviews of my work
 
No, peopel will see that YOU are the pathological liar.

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