Re: Gödel's Basic Logic Course at Notre Dame (Was: Analytic Truth-makers)

Liste des GroupesRevenir à theory 
Sujet : Re: Gödel's Basic Logic Course at Notre Dame (Was: Analytic Truth-makers)
De : janburse (at) *nospam* fastmail.fm (Mild Shock)
Groupes : comp.theory sci.logic
Date : 24. Jul 2024, 22:54:19
Autres entêtes
Message-ID : <v7rt6b$9vte$2@solani.org>
References : 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16
User-Agent : Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/91.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.18.2
But obviously sometimes sentences are
decidable, and sometimes not. Since
this depends on "True" and "L".
Actually modern logic does it much simpler,
you don't need to prescribe or explain what
a "True" and "L" does, in that you repeat
nonsense like for example:
 > A truth maker is any sequence of truth preserving operations
 > that links an expression x of language L to its semantic meaning
 > in language L. The lack of such a connection in L to x or ~x
 > means that x is not a truth-bearer in L.
Its much much easier to define a "logic".
You just take a language of sentences S.
And define a "logic" L as a subset of S.
You can imagine that L was defined as follows:
L := { A e S | True(L, A) }
But this is not necessarely the case how L is
conceived, or how L comes into being.
So a logic L is just a set of sentences. You
don't need the notion truth maker or truth bearer
at all, all you need to say you have some L ⊆ S.
You can then study such L's. For example:
- classical logic
- intuitionistic logic
- etc..
olcott schrieb:
On 7/24/2024 3:33 PM, Mild Shock wrote:
But truth bearer has another meaning.
The more correct terminology is anyway
truth maker, you have to shift away the
>
focus from the formula and think it is
a truth bearer, this is anyway wrong,
since you have two additional parameters
your "True" and your language "L".
>
So all that we see here in expression such as:
>
[~] True(L, [~] A)
>
Is truth making, and not truth bearing.
In recent years truth making has received
some attention, there are interesting papers
concerning truth makers. And it has
>
even a SEP article:
>
Truthmakers
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/truthmakers/
>
A world of truthmakers?
https://philipp.philosophie.ch/handouts/2005-5-5-truthmakers.pdf
>
olcott schrieb:
>
The key difference is that we no long use the misnomer
"undecidable" sentence and instead call it for what it
really is an expression that is not a truth bearer, or
proposition in L.
 A truth-bearer is any expression of language that can
be true or false. Self-contradictory expressions are not
truth bearers.
 

Date Sujet#  Auteur
22 Jul 24 * Analytic Truth-makers51olcott
22 Jul 24 +* ""self contradictory"" (Was: Analytic Truth-makers)6Mild Shock
22 Jul 24 i`* Re: ""self contradictory"" (Was: Analytic Truth-makers)5olcott
22 Jul 24 i `* Re: ""self contradictory"" (Was: Analytic Truth-makers)4Mild Shock
22 Jul 24 i  +- Re: ""self contradictory"" (Was: Analytic Truth-makers)1Mild Shock
22 Jul 24 i  `* Re: ""self contradictory"" (Was: Analytic Truth-makers)2olcott
23 Jul 24 i   `- Re: ""self contradictory"" (Was: Analytic Truth-makers)1Mild Shock
23 Jul 24 `* Re: Analytic Truth-makers44Richard Damon
23 Jul 24  `* Re: Analytic Truth-makers43olcott
23 Jul 24   `* Re: Analytic Truth-makers42Richard Damon
23 Jul 24    +* Re: Analytic Truth-makers26olcott
23 Jul 24    i`* Re: Analytic Truth-makers25Richard Damon
23 Jul 24    i `* Re: Analytic Truth-makers24olcott
23 Jul 24    i  `* Re: Analytic Truth-makers23Richard Damon
23 Jul 24    i   `* Re: Analytic Truth-makers22olcott
23 Jul 24    i    +* Re: Analytic Truth-makers7Richard Damon
23 Jul 24    i    i`* Re: Analytic Truth-makers6olcott
23 Jul 24    i    i +* Re: Analytic Truth-makers4Mild Shock
23 Jul 24    i    i i+* "undecidable" / "unentscheidbar" (Was Analytic Truth-makers)2Mild Shock
23 Jul 24    i    i ii`- Re: "undecidable" / "unentscheidbar" (Was Analytic Truth-makers)1Mild Shock
24 Jul 24    i    i i`- Re: Analytic Truth-makers1olcott
24 Jul 24    i    i `- Re: Analytic Truth-makers1Richard Damon
23 Jul 24    i    `* Gödel's Basic Logic Course at Notre Dame (Was: Analytic Truth-makers)14Mild Shock
23 Jul 24    i     `* Re: Gödel's Basic Logic Course at Notre Dame (Was: Analytic Truth-makers)13olcott
23 Jul 24    i      `* Re: Gödel's Basic Logic Course at Notre Dame (Was: Analytic Truth-makers)12Mild Shock
23 Jul 24    i       +* Re: Gödel's Basic Logic Course at Notre Dame (Was: Analytic Truth-makers)2olcott
24 Jul 24    i       i`- Re: Gödel's Basic Logic Course at Notre Dame (Was: Analytic Truth-makers)1Richard Damon
23 Jul 24    i       `* Re: Gödel's Basic Logic Course at Notre Dame (Was: Analytic Truth-makers)9Mild Shock
23 Jul 24    i        +- Re: Gödel's Basic Logic Course at Notre Dame (Was: Analytic Truth-makers)1Mild Shock
24 Jul 24    i        `* Re: Gödel's Basic Logic Course at Notre Dame (Was: Analytic Truth-makers)7olcott
24 Jul 24    i         +- Re: Gödel's Basic Logic Course at Notre Dame (Was: Analytic Truth-makers)1Richard Damon
24 Jul 24    i         `* Re: Gödel's Basic Logic Course at Notre Dame (Was: Analytic Truth-makers)5Mild Shock
24 Jul 24    i          `* Re: Gödel's Basic Logic Course at Notre Dame (Was: Analytic Truth-makers)4olcott
24 Jul 24    i           +* Re: Gödel's Basic Logic Course at Notre Dame (Was: Analytic Truth-makers)2Mild Shock
24 Jul 24    i           i`- Re: Gödel's Basic Logic Course at Notre Dame (Was: Analytic Truth-makers)1Mild Shock
25 Jul 24    i           `- Re: Gödel's Basic Logic Course at Notre Dame (Was: Analytic Truth-makers)1Richard Damon
23 Jul 24    `* Re: Analytic Truth-makers15Wasell
23 Jul 24     `* Re: Analytic Truth-makers14olcott
24 Jul 24      `* Re: Analytic Truth-makers13Richard Damon
24 Jul 24       `* Re: Analytic Truth-makers12olcott
24 Jul 24        `* Re: Analytic Truth-makers11Richard Damon
24 Jul 24         `* Re: Analytic Truth-makers10olcott
24 Jul 24          `* Re: Analytic Truth-makers9Richard Damon
24 Jul 24           `* Re: Analytic Truth-makers8olcott
24 Jul 24            `* Re: Analytic Truth-makers7Richard Damon
24 Jul 24             `* Re: Analytic Truth-makers6olcott
25 Jul 24              `* Re: Analytic Truth-makers5Richard Damon
25 Jul 24               `* Re: Analytic Truth-makers4olcott
25 Jul 24                `* Re: Analytic Truth-makers3Richard Damon
25 Jul 24                 `* Re: Analytic Truth-makers2olcott
26 Jul 24                  `- Re: Analytic Truth-makers1Richard Damon

Haut de la page

Les messages affichés proviennent d'usenet.

NewsPortal