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On 11/16/2024 3:16 AM, Mikko wrote:Which just shows you are a hypocrite, as you don't go to the axioms, or accepted truths of the system.On 2024-11-15 23:43:02 +0000, olcott said:https://www.researchgate.net/ publication/369971402_Simulating_Termination_Analyzer_H_is_Not_Fooled_by_Pathological_Input_D
>On 11/15/2024 3:19 AM, Mikko wrote:>On 2024-11-14 23:53:38 +0000, olcott said:>
>On 11/14/2024 3:09 AM, Mikko wrote:>On 2024-11-13 23:11:30 +0000, olcott said:>
>On 11/13/2024 4:58 AM, Mikko wrote:>On 2024-11-12 13:58:03 +0000, olcott said:>
>On 11/12/2024 1:12 AM, joes wrote:>Am Mon, 11 Nov 2024 10:35:57 -0600 schrieb olcott:>On 11/11/2024 10:25 AM, joes wrote:>Am Mon, 11 Nov 2024 08:58:02 -0600 schrieb olcott:On 11/11/2024 4:54 AM, Mikko wrote:On 2024-11-09 14:36:07 +0000, olcott said:On 11/9/2024 7:53 AM, Mikko wrote:When DDD calls a simulator that aborts, that simulator returns to DDD,DDD emulated by HHH does not reach its "return" instruction final haltThe actual computation itself does involve HHH emulating itselfWhich is what you are doing: you pretend that DDD calls some other HHH
emulating DDD. To simply pretend that this does not occur seems
dishonest.
that doesn’t abort.
state whether HHH aborts its emulation or not.
which then halts.
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It is not the same DDD as the DDD under test.
If the DDD under the test is not the same as DDD then the test
is performed incorrectly and the test result is not valid.
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The DDD under test IS THE INPUT DDD
IT IS STUPIDLY WRONG-HEADED TO THINK OTHERWISE.
I agree that there is only one DDD but above you said otherwise.
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That is a ridiculously stupid thing to say because we
already know that DDD emulated by HHH emulates itself
emulating DDD and DDD emulated by HHH1 *DOES NOT DO THAT*
You are free to laugh if you think the truth is stupid.
This is my life's only legacy that I really want to complete
before I die.
What does that "This" mean?
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and my work on generic undecidability showing that:Nope, as LLM don't do "Logic", but just pattern matching.
(⊢ is to be construed as applying truth preserving
operations to the LHS deriving the RHS)
Incomplete(L) ≡ ∃x ∈ Language(L) ((L ⊬ x) ∧ (L ⊬ ¬x))
*never has been correct it has always actually been this*
¬TruthBearer(L,x) ≡ ∃x ∈ Language(L) ((L ⊬ x) ∧ (L ⊬ ¬x))
True(L,x) ≡ Haskell_Curry_Elementary_Theorems(L) □ x
x is a necessary consequence of the expressions of the
language of L that have been stipulated to be true.
False(L,x) ≡ Haskell_Curry_Elementary_Theorems(L) □ ~x
~x is a necessary consequence of the expressions of the
language of L that have been stipulated to be true.
The above provides the basis for LLM AI systems to
distinguish facts from fictions.
That the provability operator has been replacedWhich just shows that you don't undetstand that problem.
with the necessity operator seems to require semantic
relevance. This prevents logic from diverging from
correct reasoning in many different ways such as
the principle of explosion.
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