Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof

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Sujet : Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof
De : agisaak (at) *nospam* gm.invalid (André G. Isaak)
Groupes : comp.theory sci.logic
Date : 11. Jul 2025, 04:58:18
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Organisation : Christians and Atheists United Against Creeping Agnosticism
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On 2025-07-10 19:58, Richard Damon wrote:
On 7/10/25 10:09 AM, olcott wrote:

According to the POE:
(a) The Moon is made of green cheese and
(b) the Moon does not exist
proves that
(c) Donald Trump is the Christ.
 Rigth, but only because a side affect of (a) is that the moon must exist.
Really, the problem here is that Olcott fails to distinguish between the truth of a conditional statement and the truth of the consequent of a conditional statement. They are not the same thing.
((X & ~X) implies Y) is necessarily true.
Whether Y is true is a completely independent question.
But Olcott seems to think that the truth of ((X & ~X) -> Y) somehow proves that Y is true. That's simply not how logic works.
I raise this point purely as a clarification. I'm well aware that this will have no impact on Olcott's (mis)understanding of logic.
André
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4 Jul 25 * Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof52olcott
4 Jul 25 +* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof9Richard Damon
4 Jul 25 i`* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof8olcott
5 Jul 25 i +* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof4Fred. Zwarts
5 Jul 25 i i`* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof3olcott
6 Jul 25 i i +- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Richard Damon
6 Jul10:15 i i `- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Fred. Zwarts
5 Jul 25 i `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof3Richard Damon
5 Jul 25 i  `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof2olcott
6 Jul 25 i   `- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Richard Damon
5 Jul 25 +- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Mikko
5 Jul 25 `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof41Mikko
5 Jul 25  `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof40olcott
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6 Jul15:48    `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof38olcott
6 Jul17:41     +- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Richard Damon
7 Jul09:20     `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof36Mikko
7 Jul14:57      `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof35olcott
8 Jul00:10       +- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Richard Damon
8 Jul08:41       `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof33Mikko
8 Jul15:18        `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof32olcott
9 Jul09:29         +* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof30Mikko
9 Jul13:31         i`* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof29olcott
9 Jul15:04         i +* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof15joes
9 Jul15:16         i i+* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof13olcott
10 Jul10:05         i ii+* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof11Mikko
10 Jul15:09         i iii`* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof10olcott
11 Jul09:43         i iii `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof9Mikko
11 Jul16:30         i iii  `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof8olcott
11 Jul16:50         i iii   +* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof6joes
11 Jul21:52         i iii   i`* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof5olcott
11 Jul23:58         i iii   i +- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Richard Damon
12 Jul11:54         i iii   i `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof3joes
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11 Jul23:55         i iii   `- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Richard Damon
10 Jul12:26         i ii`- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Richard Damon
9 Jul16:09         i i`- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1olcott
10 Jul10:02         i `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof13Mikko
10 Jul15:09         i  `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof12olcott
10 Jul15:55         i   +* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof2olcott
11 Jul02:59         i   i`- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Richard Damon
11 Jul02:58         i   +* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof8Richard Damon
11 Jul04:58         i   i`* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof7André G. Isaak
11 Jul05:29         i   i `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof6olcott
11 Jul05:42         i   i  +* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof4André G. Isaak
11 Jul06:12         i   i  i`* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof3olcott
12 Jul18:09         i   i  i +- André G. Isaak still has not noticed his mistake1olcott
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11 Jul14:35         i   i  `- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Richard Damon
11 Jul09:47         i   `- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Mikko
9 Jul12:09         `- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Richard Damon

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