Re: Replacement of Cardinality

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Sujet : Re: Replacement of Cardinality
De : james.g.burns (at) *nospam* att.net (Jim Burns)
Groupes : sci.logic sci.math
Date : 19. Aug 2024, 19:12:38
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On 8/19/2024 1:17 PM, Moebius wrote:
Am 19.08.2024 um 18:58 schrieb Jim Burns:

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You got it totally wrong!
>
The dark unit fractions are smaller than
the (all) visible ones.
No positive point is a lower.bound of
all the visibleᵂᴹ unit.fractions. (lemma)
Each darkᵂᴹ unit.fraction is a positive point.
No darkᵂᴹ unit.fraction is a lower.bound of
all the visibleᵂᴹ unit.fractions.
No darkᵂᴹ unit.fraction is smaller than
all the visibleᵂᴹ unit.fractions.
----
Lemma.
No positive point is a lower.bound (lb) of
all the visibleᵂᴹ unit.fractions.
⎛ Assume 0 < lb.⅟ℕᵈᵉᶠ ≤ glb.⅟ℕᵈᵉᶠ = β
⎜ not.bound 2⋅β > ⅟k ∈ ⅟ℕᵈᵉᶠ
⎜ not.bound ½⋅β > ¼⋅⅟k ∈ ⅟ℕᵈᵉᶠ
⎜ bound ½⋅β < β
⎝ Contradiction.
¬(lb.⅟ℕᵈᵉᶠ > 0)

Now:
The visible unit fraction don't have
a smallest one (of course),
More than that.
The visibleᵂᴹ unit fractions don't have
a positive lower bound.
WM has not quite conceded that.
  The last I've seen, he omits 'greatest'.
If he ever does, it is game over.
With or without his concession,
there is no positive lower bound of
visibleᵂᴹ unit fractions,  and
there is no darkᵂᴹ unit.fraction.

but the dark unit fraction do
(at least in mückenmath)!
>
WM: "Dark unit fractions have a smallest element."
WM says a lot of things.
If dark unit.fractions are positive lower bounds of
visible unit fractions,
then they don't exist,
and {} doesn't have a smallest element.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
19 Aug 24 * Re: Replacement of Cardinality25Jim Burns
19 Aug 24 +* Re: Replacement of Cardinality23Moebius
19 Aug 24 i+* Re: Replacement of Cardinality16Jim Burns
19 Aug 24 ii+- Re: Replacement of Cardinality1Moebius
20 Aug 24 ii`* Re: Replacement of Cardinality14WM
20 Aug 24 ii `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality13Jim Burns
21 Aug 24 ii  +* Re: Replacement of Cardinality4Moebius
21 Aug 24 ii  i`* Re: Replacement of Cardinality3WM
21 Aug 24 ii  i `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality2Richard Damon
21 Aug 24 ii  i  `- Re: Replacement of Cardinality1WM
21 Aug 24 ii  `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality8WM
21 Aug 24 ii   +- Re: Replacement of Cardinality1Richard Damon
21 Aug 24 ii   `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality6Jim Burns
22 Aug 24 ii    `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality5WM
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22 Aug 24 ii     i`* Re: Replacement of Cardinality2WM
22 Aug 24 ii     i `- Re: Replacement of Cardinality1Python
22 Aug 24 ii     `- Re: Replacement of Cardinality1Jim Burns
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