Re: Mass of photon? What it can't exist.

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Sujet : Re: Mass of photon? What it can't exist.
De : clzb93ynxj (at) *nospam* att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 19. Feb 2025, 20:26:43
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On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 15:53:14 +0000, Richard Hachel wrote:

Le 19/02/2025 à 16:28, clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) a écrit
:
The mass-velocity relationship prevents photons from having any mass.
Therefore, they cannot be affected by gravity.
>
If we follow the idea of ​​what a photon is (I remind you that it does
not exist between its source and its receiver, and that this time that
we
allocate to it is only an illusion due to the spatio-temporal structure
of
the universe) and the fact that it has NO proper time, and THEREFORE
that
it does not exist any more than a unicorn in my garden whose proper time
of existence would be zero.
How then could something that does not exist find the time necessary to
be
deflected by "gravity".
>
This is obviously an absurd question.
>
The photon is a quantum of energy instantly torn from its source (which
has no other function than to be ready by different means) by a
receiver,
IN the receiver's frame of reference.
>
In the source's frame of reference, the tearing is totally blind, and
the
source does not know where the photon is going, and where it could go.
>
For it, this event exists only in its own future, and therefore will
exist, possibly, only in millions or billions of years.
>
The source that was believed to be all-powerful is nothing.
>
It is the receiver that is everything.
>
A white-hot iron placed alone in the universe could neither move (in
relation to what?) nor emit (what would authoritatively tear its quanta
from it?).
>
R.H.
Time cannot be an illusion because it compares rates of change. Change
would have to be an illusion for time to be an illusion. Are you Hindu?

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