Re: Acceleration's higher orders

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Sujet : Re: Acceleration's higher orders
De : nospam (at) *nospam* de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 23. Apr 2024, 22:34:17
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gharnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> wrote:

Volney wrote:
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Ross wrote:
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So I'm wondering about v', v'', v''', that being
acceleration and its higher orders, out to v^prime-infty,
that at an instant, help figure this out.
 
For what it's worth, some higher derivatives have (somewhat whimsical)
names. The derivative of acceleration with respect to time is called
jerk, the derivative of jerk is called snap or jounce, the derivative of
snap is crackle, the derivative of crackle is pop. Someone was a
breakfast cereal fan. The highest derivative I know of that's actually
used is snap, when designing the transition of roads or railroads from
straight to a curve they try to minimize the 'snap' of a vehicle
following the transition segment.
 
I'd heard of jerk.  Many years ago, Norman Dean "invented" the Dean drive,
a system of rotating masses with the center of rotation of the masses
being moved at particular times in the rotation cycle.  He showed that the
weight of the assembly was decreased when running - on a bathroom scales.
 
William O. Davis analyzed the system which was referred to by John W.
Campbell, Jr. as "the fourth law of motion" - i.e., jerk.  Davis and G.
Harry Stine got together and tested the invention.  They hung it from a
wire and oriented it so the supposed thrust would be horizontal.  There
was no net thrust.  The "weight loss" was due to nonlinearities in the
bathroom scales because of the thumping around of the weights.

Yes, a mistake that is made over and over again.
There was some ado some time ago about some students
who had put a gyroscope on a precision 'balance'.
They noticed a change of weight that depended on the sense of rotation.
Apparently the bearings are smoother in the direction
in which they are normally run,
producing less vibration to rectify,

Jan

Date Sujet#  Auteur
9 Mar 24 * Re: Acceleration's higher orders17Volney
9 Mar 24 `* Re: Acceleration's higher orders16hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel)
9 Mar 24  +- Re: Acceleration's higher orders1Ross Finlayson
9 Mar 24  +* Re: Acceleration's higher orders12Ramiro Juárez
10 Mar 24  i`* Re: Acceleration's higher orders11Ross Finlayson
10 Mar 24  i `* Re: Acceleration's higher orders10Ismael Balazowsky Homutov
11 Mar 24  i  +- Re: Acceleration's higher orders1Bonny χρήται Μαιανδρίου
11 Mar 24  i  +- Re: Acceleration's higher orders1Lou Bodnár Sárközi
20 Mar 24  i  `* Re: Acceleration's higher orders7Ross Finlayson
21 Mar 24  i   +- Re: Acceleration's higher orders1Olden Ibuka Yokokawa
7 Apr 24  i   +* Re: Acceleration's higher orders3Ross Finlayson
24 Apr 24  i   i`* Re: Acceleration's higher orders2bertietaylor
24 Apr 24  i   i `- Re: Acceleration's higher orders1bertietaylor
23 Apr 24  i   +- Re: Acceleration's higher orders1Ross Finlayson
31 May 24  i   `- Re: Acceleration's higher orders1Ross Finlayson
23 Apr 24  `* Re: Acceleration's higher orders2J. J. Lodder
24 Apr 24   `- Re: Acceleration's higher orders1Andrea Krakowski

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