Re: Scalar waves

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Sujet : Re: Scalar waves
De : nospam (at) *nospam* de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 05. May 2024, 22:18:03
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Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:

Am Mittwoch000001, 01.05.2024 um 09:46 schrieb J. J. Lodder:
Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:
 
Am Montag000029, 29.04.2024 um 15:28 schrieb Ross Finlayson:
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It's rather as there's a physical constant.
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It's 1.0. In natural units, it's infinity.
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Or, there's a physical constant.
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It's infinity. In natural units, it's 1.0.
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I don't like this 'c=1 thing', because 1 is a natural number, while
speed/velocity have physical dimensions with v = dx/dt.
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Because time and distance are not measured with the same units, c had to
have units.
 
You really need to work on your misunderstandings about units and
dimensions.
In particular, physical quantities do not -have- a dimension.
Conversely dimension is not a property of physical quantity.
You cannot measure a dimension.
 
Sure, you measure physical quantities.
 
Lets say: you measure a current in Amperes.
 
Then the measurement of - say- 100 mA means, that a certain electrical
current has a current strength of 100 mA.
 
Now 'current strength' is the quantity which is measured. This current
strength is then the dimension of the measurement and the value depends
on the used units, which are Ampere in this case.

See? You are hopelessly confused betwen units and dimensions.
What you measure is a current in Amps.
One may asign a dimension [Current] to the unit Ampere.
(which is what is done in the conventional system of dimensions
for the SI)
You may also measure it in another system of units,
and assign other dimensions to it.
Even for the SI you can define other systems of dimensions.

Now all measured quantities need some kind of dimension and unit, if
they should make sense in physics.

Wrong.

Even pure numbers have a dimension this way.

Again, wrong.

E.g. if you count eggs, the result would be a number. But the number
alone would not make sense, since 'number of eggs' can also be a dimension.
 
Dimensions are human constructs that can be assigned arbitrarily,
limited only by the need to be consistent about it.
 
'Human contruct' is ok, while to 'arbitrary' I would not agree.

The simple fact that you can define different systems of dimensions
for the same system of units should make it clear
that you are mistaken in this.
Perhaps you should look up the formal definition of 'dimension'
in general.

Your problem is that you know nothing at all about dimensions
beyond the -conventional- system of dimensions
that is usually associated with the SI.

Jan



Date Sujet#  Auteur
28 Apr 24 * Scalar waves55Thomas Heger
28 Apr 24 `* Re: Scalar waves54Ross Finlayson
28 Apr 24  +- Re: Scalar waves1Dominick Csikós
28 Apr 24  +- Re: Scalar waves1Ross Finlayson
29 Apr 24  `* Re: Scalar waves51Thomas Heger
29 Apr 24   `* Re: Scalar waves50Ross Finlayson
30 Apr 24    `* Re: Scalar waves49Thomas Heger
30 Apr 24     +* Re: Scalar waves6Thomas Heger
1 May 24     i`* Re: Scalar waves5Ross Finlayson
1 May 24     i +* Re: Scalar waves3Thomas Heger
1 May 24     i i`* Re: Scalar waves2J. J. Lodder
3 May 24     i i `- Re: Scalar waves1Thomas Heger
1 May 24     i `- Re: Scalar waves1J. J. Lodder
1 May 24     `* Re: Scalar waves42J. J. Lodder
1 May 24      +- Re: Scalar waves1Maciej Wozniak
3 May 24      `* Re: Scalar waves40Thomas Heger
4 May 24       +* Re: Scalar waves28Ross Finlayson
5 May 24       i+* Re: Scalar waves23Thomas Heger
5 May 24       ii+* Re: Scalar waves2Ross Finlayson
5 May 24       iii`- Re: Scalar waves1Ross Finlayson
5 May 24       ii`* Re: Scalar waves20J. J. Lodder
6 May 24       ii `* Re: Scalar waves19Thomas Heger
6 May 24       ii  `* Re: Scalar waves18J. J. Lodder
6 May 24       ii   `* Re: Scalar waves17Mikko
6 May 24       ii    `* Re: Scalar waves16J. J. Lodder
7 May 24       ii     `* Re: Scalar waves15Thomas Heger
7 May 24       ii      +* Re: Scalar waves6J. J. Lodder
7 May 24       ii      i`* Re: Scalar waves5Maciej Wozniak
8 May 24       ii      i `* Re: Scalar waves4Thomas Heger
8 May 24       ii      i  `* Re: Scalar waves3J. J. Lodder
8 May 24       ii      i   +- Re: Scalar waves1Maciej Wozniak
9 May 24       ii      i   `- Re: Scalar waves1Thomas Heger
8 May 24       ii      `* Re: Scalar waves8Mikko
8 May 24       ii       `* Re: Scalar waves7J. J. Lodder
8 May 24       ii        `* Re: Scalar waves6Ross Finlayson
9 May 24       ii         `* Re: Scalar waves5Thomas Heger
9 May 24       ii          `* Re: Scalar waves4Ross Finlayson
9 May 24       ii           `* Re: Scalar waves3Ross Finlayson
10 May 24       ii            `* Re: Scalar waves2Thomas Heger
10 May 24       ii             `- Re: Scalar waves1Ross Finlayson
5 May 24       i`* Re: Scalar waves4J. J. Lodder
6 May 24       i `* Re: Scalar waves3Ross Finlayson
6 May 24       i  `* Re: Scalar waves2J. J. Lodder
6 May 24       i   `- Re: Scalar waves1Ross Finlayson
5 May 24       `* Re: Scalar waves11J. J. Lodder
6 May 24        `* Re: Scalar waves10Thomas Heger
6 May 24         `* Re: Scalar waves9J. J. Lodder
6 May 24          `* Re: Scalar waves8Ollis Kalakos
7 May 24           `* Re: Scalar waves7Thomas Heger
7 May 24            `* Re: Scalar waves6Parkis Escarrà
8 May 24             `* Re: Scalar waves5Thomas Heger
8 May 24              `* Re: Scalar waves4Tamerlane Oldfart Lefévre
11 May 24               `* Re: Scalar waves3Thomas Heger
11 May 24                `* Re: Scalar waves2Ross Finlayson
12 May 24                 `- Re: Scalar waves1Ross Finlayson

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