Re: What clocks indicate

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De : nospam (at) *nospam* de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 09. May 2024, 19:41:53
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The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

J. J. Lodder wrote:
 
gharnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>
is a matter of ergonomy. Not a mater
of some delusional "Law of Nature" invented
by an insane crazie.
You can gedanke/imagine "perfect", "proper",
"correct" clocks perfectly obedient to you.
But you can't enforce your madness on real
clocks. Anyone can check GPS, sorry, poor
halfbrains, you're - simply - not important
enough.
>
The first satellite went up with an accurate clock.
It didn't work right.  A switch was thrown to change
the timebase to agree with the "insane crazy" -- and
lo and behold, it worked.
>
"If it's stupid but it works, it isn't stupid."
 -- Naval Ops Manual
>
Wozzie keeps repeating the same misinformation, hoping
for emotional support for his derangement.
>
"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and
expecting different results." -- Albert Einstein
 
Do you have a real source for Einstein ever having said
anything like this?
Beyond the internet forever repeating itself?
 
Jan
(doubting it)
 
 
He concludes his letter, ironically: "I am now completely ripe for the insane
asylum‰ 
https://einsteinpapers.press.princeton.edu/vol13-doc/38

Certainly, but this is not the phrase wanted.
I Had the opportunity to look it up in the meantime.
It is in the 'ultimate quotable Einstein',
in the 'attributed to' part.
This is an error, it should be in the 'not by Einstein' section.

======
 *Insanity is doing the same thing over and over
again and expecting different results.
By Rita Mae Brown, in Sudden Death (New York: Bantam,
1983), 68. Thanks to Barbara Wolff for the source.
=====
So an invention from well after Einstein's death,
by someone without any connection to either physics or Einstein.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rita_Mae_Brown>

And looking that up, in that book,
I find that there isn't any real Einstein in the book.
The phrase is there, in the dialogue,
but it is said by a character in the book who is nicknamed 'Einstein',
presumably because she is supposed to have brains.

So it is all bunk, and it has nothing to do with the real Einstein,

Jan

--
My reason for doubting it: Einstein was a good physicist. He would have
been well aware that experiments will never reproduce perfectly, so
every replication will produce a somewhat different result. Physicists
of course know how to handle such situations. (statistics and all that)




Date Sujet#  Auteur
8 May 24 * Re: What clocks indicate11gharnagel
8 May 24 +- Re: What clocks indicate1Ross Finlayson
8 May 24 +- Re: What clocks indicate1Maciej Wozniak
8 May 24 `* Re: What clocks indicate8J. J. Lodder
9 May 24  +- Re: What clocks indicate1Maciej Wozniak
9 May 24  `* Re: What clocks indicate6J. J. Lodder
10 May 24   `* Re: What clocks indicate5J. J. Lodder
11 May 24    `* Re: What clocks indicate4gharnagel
11 May 24     +- Re: What clocks indicate1Maciej Wozniak
11 May 24     `* Re: What clocks indicate2J. J. Lodder
11 May 24      `- Re: What clocks indicate1Bruno Gyöngyösi

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