Re: The problem of relativistic synchronisation

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Sujet : Re: The problem of relativistic synchronisation
De : r.hachel (at) *nospam* wanadou.fr (Richard Hachel)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 06. Sep 2024, 12:31:18
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Le 06/09/2024 à 12:31, Thomas Heger a écrit :
Usually we have an observer (say 'A') at a certain spot (also called 'A'), who measures distances from his own position.
 The measured object (say 'B') moves - say- away at a certain speed v.
 But seen from B the point A moves away with the same speed, though into the opposite direction.
Here, already, there arises a problem that physicists do not see, or even deny for forty years, that is to say since I told them.
How is this speed characterized in a relativistic universe?
There are three ways to propose what A sees of B.
-The real speed (which is a primordial concept but is never used, except in a roundabout way by posing m'=m/sqrt(1-v²/c²), which is an absurdity imposing the relativity of masses. A bus becoming two buses by change of reference frame.
-The observable speed, measured with two separate watches A and B, and which is the classic speed used, but false.
- The apparent speed (what we see with the naked eye in telescopes because of anisochrony, that is to say the inverse of the speed of light).
We therefore have three simple notations of what a speed is.
Vr, Vo, Vapp.
We will note that the absence of a preferred reference frame in the universe,
means that these three speeds remain constant by permutation of observer.
Let us pose an entity B which moves away from A at 0.8c (speed in classical notation). We have Vo=0.8c, Vr=(4/3)c, Vapp=(4/9)c.
These values ​​remain systematically reciprocal between them according to the laws of relativity.
R.H.
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