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Sujet : Re: Weakness in the results of the three tests of GR shown in rhe lasr century,.
De : hertz778 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (rhertz)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 30. Oct 2024, 01:30:13
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On Tue, 29 Oct 2024 21:35:06 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:

Mr. Hertz: Perhaps this source would be interesting: "Hipparcos did not
measure directly the light bending" = Serret.
Of course IT DID NOT!
The MAIN objective of HIPPARCOS was to measure the RELATIVE POSITION AND
LATERAL MOTION of more than 100,000 stars with respect TO EACH OTHER,
besides its  brightness and colors.
PURE COMMON SENSE: IF NO UNIVERSAL FRAME OF REFERENCE EXISTED BY THE
TIME OF HIPPARCOS, ON WHAT BASIS AFFIRMATIONS LIKE THAT "HIPPARCOS WAS
ABLE TO PROVIDE DATA TO MEASURE STARLIGHT DEFLECTION WITH PRECISION IN
THE ORDER OF MILLI-ARCSECONDS"?
The OBVIOUS ANSWER is that IT COULDN'T BE DONE IN THE 90s, because prior
to HIPPARCOS, the "absolute position" of each of the 100,000 stars WAS
UNKNOWN with accuracy with such absurd accuracy (1/200 of 1 arcsecond).
So, this is worse than the problem of the chicken and the egg.
Worse yet: Years after the download and post-processing of about 100 GB
collected by HIPPARCOS, a catalogue was published WITH MANUAL
RELATIVISTIC CORRECTIONS of star's positions and proper lateral motion.
AND THIS IS CHEATING, COOKING, FUDGING! THIS IS FRAUD, A MASSIVE ONE!
READ THIS:
AFTER YEARS OF POST-PROCESSING DOWNLOADED DATA, THEORETICAL CORRECTIONS
due to special relativity (stellar aberration) made use of the
corresponding satellite velocity. MODIFICATIONS due to general
relativistic light bending were significant (4 milliarc-sec at 90° to
the ecliptic) and corrected for deterministically assuming γ=1 in the
PPN formalism.
THIS MEANS THAT RESULTS WERE FORGED BY RELATIVISTS, USING THEORETICAL
MODELS OF RELATIVITY (PPN).
It was mathematically IMPOSSIBLE that HIPPARCOS COULD MEASURE ANY EFFECT
DUE TO RELATIVITY. Raw data, once downloaded, was post-processed HEAVILY
by using the BEST SUITABLE statistical algorithms, which took years to
compute. And the MAJOR ASPECT is that the REFERENCE FRAME that was used,
by 1990, is A THEORETICAL
HOW WAS CREATED A GALACTIC FRAME OF REFERENCE, TO DEFINE POSITIONS OF
STARS?
NO VALID FRAME OF REFERENCE WAS AVAILABLE IN THE 90s, THEN ESA INVENTED
ONE: The Hipparcos celestial reference frame (HCRF), taking care about
it to be closely related to the International Celestial Reference Frame
(ICRF), based on more than 200 extragalactic sources.
With the HIPPARCOS successor, GAIA, a new reference frame was created by
ESA: Gaia-CRF. So, now there are TWO reference frames, competing one
with each other.
In August 1997, the International Astronomical Union resolved in
Resolution B2 of its XXIIIrd General Assembly "that the Hipparcos
Catalogue shall be the primary realization of the ICRS at optical
wavelengths.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Celestial_Reference_System_and_its_realizations
The Hipparcos and Tycho Catalogues were constructed such that the
resulting Hipparcos celestial reference frame (HCRF) coincides, to
within observational uncertainties, with the International Celestial
Reference Frame (ICRF), and representing the best estimates at the time
of the catalogue completion (in 1996).
QUOTE FROM ESA:
--------------------------------------------------------
HIPPARCOS is an acronym for "HIgh Precision PArallax COllecting
Satellite".
It was the very first space mission for measuring the RELATIVE
positions, distances, motions, brightness and colors of stars for
astrometry.
The intended goal was to measure the FIVE ASTROMETRIC PARAMETERS of some
120,000 primary program stars to a precision of some 2 to 4 milliarcsec,
over a planned mission lifetime of 2.5 years, and the astrometric and
two-color photometric properties of some 400,000 additional stars (the
Tycho experiment) to a somewhat lower astrometric precision.
......................
The directions and motions of stars in the Hipparcos Catalogue are
precise to about one milli-arcsecond, or a quarter of a millionth of a
degree.
-------------------------------------------------------
THE COMMENT ABOUT THAT HIPPARCOS HELPED TO PROVE GR AS A PART OF ITS
MISSION IS FALSE, AND IT'S INCLUDED IN THE SUMMARY OF THE MISSION AT ESA
AND NASA SITE, DECADES AFTER HIPPARCOS PROJECT FINISHED.
THE DEEP AND DARK HAND OF RELATIVISTS IS PRESENT EVERYWHERE, REWRITING
HISTORY TO DRIVE EINSTEIN'S FIGURE AND RELATIVITY UP TO THE SKY.
BUT IT'S ALL A LIE, AN HOAX!
NOW, IF YOU HAVE A JOB ON THESE SUBJECTS, TRY TO CONTRADICT THE ABOVE
ASSERTIONS AND TELL ME HOW DID IT WORK FOR YOU.
YOU WOULD BE CANCELLED ASAP!
FUCK RELATIVISTS AND THEIR SINISTER AGENDA.

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