Re: How can gravity itself escape a black hole?

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Sujet : Re: How can gravity itself escape a black hole?
De : hitlong (at) *nospam* yahoo.com (gharnagel)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 02. Nov 2024, 02:06:49
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On Fri, 1 Nov 2024 19:30:09 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
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W dniu 01.11.2024 o 17:24, gharnagel pisze:
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On Fri, 1 Nov 2024 13:42:49 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
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W dniu 01.11.2024 o 14:14, gharnagel pisze:
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Consider the case when vr = 0 and vt^2/c^2 = rs/2r.  The mass
is in orbit around the BH at r = 1.5rs and time is frozen from
the distant observer's perspective, which is strange: how can
it orbit if it's frozen ...
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Simply: fantasy worlds
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Nothing is more fantastic than someone who asserts that time
didn't exist before humans invented it :-))
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And still I've provided more than 40 examples
of times that for sure didn't exist before
humans invented them.
And still that's irrelevant

imagined by some idiots
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SLANDER!  Wozniak is SLANDERING for no valid reason at all!
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Nope, poor trash.
And he slanders again in his response.  What a piece of work!

It is not false.
Those who earn Nobel prizes are NOT idiots.  The jury would
certainly be deliberating on someone who claimed they were idiots,
however.
Wozniak can't attack the issue so he attacks people.  This is
known as
"1. ad hominem — attacking the arguer and not the argument."
-- Carl Sagan
Wozniak is incompetent to deal with the issue.
"Attack me again with your sticks and your stones,
And, yes, you just may end up breaking my bones.
But name-calling earns you the hapless disgrace
Of failing to logically argue your case." -- David Morin

My alleged booze - is.
Of course, it's no surprise that
you're too stupid  to distinguish
an insult and a slander. Anyway,
speaking to relativistic scum
sadly made me partially descending
to its level.
See?  Wozniak goes for personal attack, every time.  And when
he tries to address the issue, he is left looking really, really
stupid.

can behave very strangely indeed.
But how about a distant observer moving wrt
the one you specified? Is the mass frozen for
him as well,
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The scenario about which Wozniak has chosen to express his
ignorance is a tangential velocity, not a linear one.
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And?  Is the mass frozen for such
observer or not? No answer? Sure.
Slandering is easy, answerring
questions is not, right, poor trash?
:-))  There he is, looking really, really stupid again.  And
slandering again, too!  If he doesn't understand the difference
between linear and circular motion, he wouldn't be able to
understand the answer.
“If you’re incompetent, you can’t know you’re incompetent. […]
the skills you need to produce a right answer are exactly the
skills you need to recognize what a right answer is.”
 —David Dunning
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
Wozniak has incorrectly used the DL effect against those who
refuted his stupid assertions without realizing that it
actually applies to himself :-))

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1 Nov 24 i `* Re: How can gravity itself escape a black hole?9gharnagel
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