Re: Time Dilation Can Only be Detected at Velocities Close to the Speed of Light

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Sujet : Re: Time Dilation Can Only be Detected at Velocities Close to the Speed of Light
De : nospam (at) *nospam* de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 19. Nov 2024, 09:41:03
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Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> wrote:

On 2024-11-17 19:03:25 +0000, J. J. Lodder said:
 
Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> wrote:
 
On 2024-11-15 21:52:05 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen said:
 
Time Dilation Can Only be Detected at Velocities Close to the Speed of
Light
 
Is one tenth of c close? At that speed time dilation is easy to observe.
 
Time dilation is observed at the speed of an aeroplane.
 
Oscillators currently studied in laboratories will in near future permit
the detection of time dilation at walking speed.
 
Amost  there:
0.3 meter of altitude is equivalent to about 9 km/h in speed.
More than walking, but already less than running,
 
Gravitational effect has already been demonstrated on smaller altitude
difference:
 
https://www.snexplores.org/article/a-new-clock-shows-how-gravity-warps-time-ev
en-over-tiny-distances

Yes, that has been mentioned here several times already.
But that is inside one, not for an entire clock.

However, Experiments with moving things are harder. All moving parts
tend to generate noise. Clocks are easiest to compare when stationary
side by side but then at least one of them must be accerated between
the comparisons and one must ensure that the acceleration does not
affect the clocks rhythm.

Has also been done already, with a van-mounted strontium clock.
<https://phys.org/news/2018-02-optical-clock-gravitation.html>

They don't talk about the Lorentz factors involved in driving the car,
but they must have compensated for them to get the gravity measurements
right.

One of the things the nutters here tend to forget
is that physicsts are not working all the time
to 'prove relativity right'.
Relativity is standard 'unproblematic background knowledge'.
It will be demonstated explicitly only when some parameter
can be pushed back by another decade.

They are out to do more interesting things.
Standard relativistic corrections are applied as a matter of course,
when and where needed,

Jan



Date Sujet#  Auteur
15 Nov 24 * Time Dilation Can Only be Detected at Velocities Close to the Speed of Light37LaurenceClarkCrossen
16 Nov 24 +* Re: Time Dilation Can Only be Detected at Velocities Close to the Speed of Light3gharnagel
16 Nov 24 i`* Re: Time Dilation Can Only be Detected at Velocities Close to the Speed of Light2LaurenceClarkCrossen
17 Nov 24 i `- Re: Time Dilation Can Only be Detected at Velocities Close to the Speed of Light1gharnagel
16 Nov 24 +* Re: Time Dilation Can Only be Detected at Velocities Close to the Speed of Light11J. J. Lodder
16 Nov 24 i+- Re: Time Dilation Can Only be Detected at Velocities Close to the Speed of Light1Maciej Wozniak
16 Nov 24 i+* Re: Time Dilation Can Only be Detected at Velocities Close to the Speed of Light2LaurenceClarkCrossen
18 Nov 24 ii`- Re: Time Dilation Can Only be Detected at Velocities Close to the Speed of Light1J. J. Lodder
16 Nov 24 i`* Re: Time Dilation Can Only be Detected at Velocities Close to the Speed of Light7LaurenceClarkCrossen
17 Nov 24 i +* Re: Time Dilation Can Only be Detected at Velocities Close to the Speed of Light3Mikko
17 Nov 24 i i`* Re: Time Dilation Can Only be Detected at Velocities Close to the Speed of Light2LaurenceClarkCrossen
18 Nov 24 i i `- Re: Time Dilation Can Only be Detected at Velocities Close to the Speed of Light1Mikko
17 Nov 24 i `* Re: Time Dilation Can Only be Detected at Velocities Close to the Speed of Light3J. J. Lodder
17 Nov 24 i  `* Re: Time Dilation Can Only be Detected at Velocities Close to the Speed of Light2LaurenceClarkCrossen
18 Nov 24 i   `- Re: Time Dilation Can Only be Detected at Velocities Close to the Speed of Light1J. J. Lodder
17 Nov 24 `* Re: Time Dilation Can Only be Detected at Velocities Close to the Speed of Light22Mikko
17 Nov 24  +- Re: Time Dilation Can Only be Detected at Velocities Close to the Speed of Light1Maciej Wozniak
17 Nov 24  +* Re: Time Dilation Can Only be Detected at Velocities Close to the Speed of Light11J. J. Lodder
17 Nov 24  i+* Re: Time Dilation Can Only be Detected at Velocities Close to the Speed of Light4ProkaryoticCaspaseHomolog
17 Nov 24  ii+- Re: Time Dilation Can Only be Detected at Velocities Close to the Speed of Light1Ross Finlayson
17 Nov 24  ii+- Re: Time Dilation Can Only be Detected at Velocities Close to the Speed of Light1J. J. Lodder
18 Nov 24  ii`- Re: Time Dilation Can Only be Detected at Velocities Close to the Speed of Light1Maciej Wozniak
17 Nov 24  i+- Re: Time Dilation Can Only be Detected at Velocities Close to the Speed of Light1Ross Finlayson
18 Nov 24  i`* Re: Time Dilation Can Only be Detected at Velocities Close to the Speed of Light5Mikko
19 Nov 24  i `* Re: Time Dilation Can Only be Detected at Velocities Close to the Speed of Light4J. J. Lodder
19 Nov 24  i  +- Re: Time Dilation Can Only be Detected at Velocities Close to the Speed of Light1Maciej Wozniak
19 Nov 24  i  `* Re: Time Dilation Can Only be Detected at Velocities Close to the Speed of Light2Ross Finlayson
19 Nov 24  i   `- Re: Time Dilation Can Only be Detected at Velocities Close to the Speed of Light1Ross Finlayson
17 Nov 24  +* Re: Time Dilation Can Only be Detected at Velocities Close to the Speed of Light5LaurenceClarkCrossen
18 Nov 24  i`* Re: Time Dilation Can Only be Detected at Velocities Close to the Speed of Light4Mikko
18 Nov 24  i `* Re: Time Dilation Can Only be Detected at Velocities Close to the Speed of Light3J. J. Lodder
18 Nov 24  i  +- Re: Time Dilation Can Only be Detected at Velocities Close to the Speed of Light1Ross Finlayson
18 Nov 24  i  `- Re: Time Dilation Can Only be Detected at Velocities Close to the Speed of Light1Maciej Wozniak
17 Nov 24  +- Re: Time Dilation Can Only be Detected at Velocities Close to the Speed of Light1LaurenceClarkCrossen
18 Nov 24  +- Re: Time Dilation Can Only be Detected at Velocities Close to the Speed of Light1LaurenceClarkCrossen
18 Nov 24  +- Re: Time Dilation Can Only be Detected at Velocities Close to the Speed of Light1LaurenceClarkCrossen
18 Nov 24  `- Re: Time Dilation Can Only be Detected at Velocities Close to the Speed of Light1Thomas Heger

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