Re: Why a time of the real world must be galilean

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Sujet : Re: Why a time of the real world must be galilean
De : nospam (at) *nospam* de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 19. Dec 2024, 20:39:20
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Richard Hachel <r.hachel@liscati.fr.invalid> wrote:

Le 16/12/2024 à 13:19, nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) a écrit :
You should rejoice instead. Since the whole framework of the world
and all physical theories must conform to the relativity postulate
it should be real easy to find falsifications of it.
 
Easy, isn't it?
 
Jan
 
No, no, precisely, it is not easy.
 
All the experimental proof that we have, we have it on fairly limited
experiments. Because, in fact, we cannot go up in accelerated rockets to
show that it is Dr. Hachel who is right, and not Albert Einstein.

We await a doable (in principle) decisive experiment
that will prove Dr. Hachel right, and Prof. Einstein wrong.
(so not a relativistic centrifuge,
 or a forever accelerating spaceship at 1 g, or...)
FYI, what we see so far on relativistic motion around black holes
favour Einstein.

But that will come, with the progress of science, we arrive at certain
results consistent with Hachel's thinking, and not that of Einstein.

Godot may be the first to arrive, I guess.

Einstein cannot explain instantaneous transfers of information (that is
what Alain Aspect says), where Hachel does not even need to explain it, so
obvious is the theoretical fact.

Aspect said no such thing. And 'theoretical facts' don't exist.

No, no, it is not easy.

Indeed, indeed.

The same for rotating frames of reference.
 
Dr. Hachel explains that there is a radial contraction of the rotating
disk and gives the correct transformations. But how can we prove here
again that it is Hachel who masters the entirety of the theory? Do you
think that we can spin a disk with a relativistic tangential speed easily?
 
So no, it is not easy to show that Einstein was wrong about part of his
thinking, which does not take into account all the concepts.
 
Somewhat strange concepts, but whose mathematical needs do not exceed
those of high school (16-18 years old).

So we await not your concepts,
but your verifiable experimental proposal based on them,

Jan


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