Re: Einstein FRAUD with the paper on m=E/c^2

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Sujet : Re: Einstein FRAUD with the paper on m=E/c^2
De : nospam (at) *nospam* de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 04. Mar 2025, 22:05:37
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rhertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote:
[AI stupidities]
MY FINAL COMMENT: I'm an electronic engineer with vast practical
experience, in particular in the field of instruments.

So you are incompetent as an 'electronic engineer' as well.

As an analogy to my doubt about E=mc^2, I bring this case: How was defined
what 1 Ohm was, around 1900? By consensus, being UK instrumental in such
adopted definition.

Of course, all units are always defined by consensus
of the people who use them. How else could it be?
And FYI, the Ohm is not a fundamental unit, it has never been,
and there has never been a primary standard for it,
only secondary ones.
(the SI is a kg, meter second, Amp system, remember?)

What happened with the instruments that measured resistance
after this consensus about what 1 Ohm? They were calibrated to verify
the new standard.

As always. Once a unit is established, people calibrate secondary
standards, and tertiary, until down to the Ohm-meter you buy in a shop.

Same with voltmeters and amperometers.

[sic]
You, a so-called engineer, doesn't even know how to spell the thing.

Before the adoption of standards by international consensus, there existed
dozens of different values for the same measurement.

Complete nonsense. There never were dozens of resistance standards.
On the contrary, there existed only one system of electrical units,
the cgs one. (aka Gaussian, or Heaviside-Lorentz, if rationalised)

The 'new' units differed from the old units only in name,
and by some arbitrary (and unfortunate) factors of ten.
(like for example the new, and of course highly practical, Ampere
being 0.1 of the old, and wildly impractical cgs unit, the Abampere)

After the adoption of the standards, all of them converged to the same
value.

More nonsense. There is nothing to converge.
Converging is something that standards don't do, and can't do.
They are what they are, or they are not standards.
Until replaced by a more accurate standard, defined in a different way.

So, it doesn't impress me that such values of resistance, voltage and
current can be now "measured" with "extraordinary" precision.

Of course it not 'impress' you, because you are a complete idiot,
without practical knowledge of engineering and science.

We are living through a 'precision revolution' these days,
with immense practical consequences.
All practical manufacturing nowadays depends
on being able to measure things to "extraordinary" precision.
(like for example the chips for the thing you were posting this with)
Haven't you noticed that all kinds of things tend to get miniaturised?
They can become smaller because we can measure to better accuracy.

Same with the widespread use of E=mc^2.

Widespread use? What you mean is universal use.

You cannot get around it, because E = mc^2 is true
by the very definition of those units you are so proud of.
(CGPM 2018, and not just consensus, unanimously)

Jan






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