Re: Understanding the theory of special relativity

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Sujet : Re: Understanding the theory of special relativity
De : r.hachel (at) *nospam* liscati.fr.invalid (Richard Hachel)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 21. Jan 2025, 14:46:25
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Le 21/01/2025 à 14:27, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
  Fortunately, we have GPS now, so we can be
absolutely sure this absurd bullshit is just
some absurd bullshit having nothing in common
with real clocks, real observers or real
anything.
What must be understood is that if the theory of relativity did not exist, that is, if, at the base, the universe was isochronous even in a simple stationary frame of reference (there is no movement), there could be no GPS, because all the information would arrive at the same time, and we could not know how far away an object is from another.
It is precisely the isochrony of things that means that even if light is, for the receiver, an instantaneous transaction, that is to say it propagates infinitely quickly, there is nevertheless a time lag that means that we can measure the distance.
Distance IS the anisochrony of GPS.
It is absurd to say that GPS invalidates relativity, when it is relativity that allows GPS to exist.
Without anisochrony, no GPS. Only instantaneous transfers of information in a hyperplane of absolute simultaneity, and a total impossibility of calculating any delay of information due to distance.
R.H.
Date Sujet#  Auteur
17 Jan 25 * Understanding the theory of special relativity31Richard Hachel
17 Jan 25 `* Re: Understanding the theory of special relativity30Paul.B.Andersen
17 Jan 25  +- Re: Understanding the theory of special relativity1Maciej Wozniak
18 Jan 25  +- Re: Understanding the theory of special relativity1Richard Hachel
18 Jan 25  `* Re: Understanding the theory of special relativity27Richard Hachel
18 Jan 25   +- Re: Understanding the theory of special relativity1Richard Hachel
18 Jan 25   `* Re: Understanding the theory of special relativity25Paul.B.Andersen
18 Jan 25    +* Re: Understanding the theory of special relativity23Richard Hachel
19 Jan 25    i`* Re: Understanding the theory of special relativity22Paul.B.Andersen
19 Jan 25    i `* Re: Understanding the theory of special relativity21Richard Hachel
20 Jan 25    i  `* Re: Understanding the theory of special relativity20Paul.B.Andersen
21 Jan 25    i   +* Re: Understanding the theory of special relativity18Richard Hachel
21 Jan 25    i   i+* Re: Understanding the theory of special relativity2Richard Hachel
21 Jan 25    i   ii`- Re: Understanding the theory of special relativity1Maciej Wozniak
21 Jan 25    i   i`* Re: Understanding the theory of special relativity15Paul.B.Andersen
21 Jan 25    i   i `* Re: Understanding the theory of special relativity14Richard Hachel
22 Jan 25    i   i  `* Re: Understanding the theory of special relativity13Paul.B.Andersen
23 Jan 25    i   i   +- Re: Understanding the theory of special relativity1Maciej Wozniak
23 Jan 25    i   i   +- Re: Understanding the theory of special relativity1Richard Hachel
23 Jan 25    i   i   +* Re: Understanding the theory of special relativity3Richard Hachel
23 Jan 25    i   i   i`* Re: Understanding the theory of special relativity2Paul.B.Andersen
23 Jan 25    i   i   i `- Re: Understanding the theory of special relativity1Maciej Wozniak
23 Jan 25    i   i   +- Re: Understanding the theory of special relativity1Richard Hachel
23 Jan 25    i   i   `* Re: Understanding the theory of special relativity6Paul.B.Andersen
23 Jan 25    i   i    +- Re: Understanding the theory of special relativity1Maciej Wozniak
23 Jan 25    i   i    `* Re: Understanding the theory of special relativity4Richard Hachel
24 Jan 25    i   i     `* Re: Understanding the theory of special relativity3Paul.B.Andersen
24 Jan 25    i   i      +- Re: Understanding the theory of special relativity1Richard Hachel
25 Jan 25    i   i      `- Re: Understanding the theory of special relativity1Thomas Heger
21 Jan 25    i   `- Re: Understanding the theory of special relativity1Richard Hachel
18 Jan 25    `- Re: Understanding the theory of special relativity1Maciej Wozniak

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