Re: The impotence of Minkowskian relativists

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Sujet : Re: The impotence of Minkowskian relativists
De : r.hachel (at) *nospam* tiscali.fr (Richard Hachel)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 08. Apr 2024, 00:49:19
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Le 08/04/2024 à 01:39, Richard Hachel a écrit :
Le 07/04/2024 à 14:30, "Paul B. Andersen" a écrit :
Den 07.04.2024 13:16, skrev Richard Hachel:
 
Richard Hachel's "theory" predicts that the speed of protons
in the Large Hadron Collider is  6927⋅c.
 This is not a prediction, it is a fact.
 The speed of the protons is indeed 6927c, which is, obviously, enormous speeds.
 There is also a way to calculate the momentum and kinetic energy of these protons.
 p=m.Vr
Ec=mc².[sqrt(1+Vr²/c²) -1)
 What you don't seem to understand is that the measured speeds are not the real speeds but only the speeds observable in the laboratory reference frame.
 This other speed (Vo) is an illusion and is so false that if we use it to describe things in accelerated frames of reference
we will find inconsistent and relative speeds with the position of the observer in this same frame of reference.
 Python also understood this very well, when he said that the speeds observable at Hachel ARE inconsistent because they vary depending on the
position of who measures it in the frame of reference which indeed seems absurd.
 But that’s exactly what I’m trying so hard to explain to you (and to others).
 This is absurd because it is FALSE. This speed is NOT consistent.
 If you take the real speed, all the nonsense disappears.
 The instantaneous real velocity remains constant for all observers in all reference frames, including accelerated ones.
 Not instantaneous observable velocities (Voi).
 Note that the Voi which must be measured correctly must be measured at the same place where the particle passes, and not from a distant location in the accelerated frames of reference.
 And that the correct equation is Voi/c=[1+c²/2ax]^(-1/2) and not what the relativists say.
 R.H.
Paul B. Andersen objects that it is necessary to precisely regulate electromagnetic fields, etc.
And therefore depending on Vo=0.999999990c rather than Vr=6927c.
I'm not saying the opposite.
The times to be taken into account in the laboratory reference frames to adjust the fields crossed are those of the laboratory and not that of the proton.
R.H.
Date Sujet#  Auteur
6 Apr 24 * The impotence of Minkowskian relativists10Richard Hachel
7 Apr 24 `* Re: The impotence of Minkowskian relativists9Paul B. Andersen
7 Apr 24  `* Re: The impotence of Minkowskian relativists8Richard Hachel
7 Apr 24   `* Re: The impotence of Minkowskian relativists7Paul B. Andersen
7 Apr 24    +- Re: The impotence of Minkowskian relativists1Maciej Wozniak
8 Apr 24    `* Re: The impotence of Minkowskian relativists5Richard Hachel
8 Apr 24     +* Re: The impotence of Minkowskian relativists2Richard Hachel
8 Apr 24     i`- Re: The impotence of Minkowskian relativists1Paul B. Andersen
8 Apr 24     +- Re: The impotence of Minkowskian relativists1Thaddeus Pantelakos Kefalas
8 Apr 24     `- Re: The impotence of Minkowskian relativists1Paul B. Andersen

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