Re: No evidence

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Sujet : Re: No evidence
De : r.hachel (at) *nospam* liscati.fr.invalid (Richard Hachel)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 17. Sep 2024, 16:16:06
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Le 17/09/2024 à 08:00, Mikko a écrit :
On 2024-09-15 21:27:28 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen said:
 
Mikko: Then relativity has two types of time contraction. One due to
gravity and the other due to relative motion as in the H&K they have
time dilate in one direction and contract in the other.
 Both theories have time dilation and contraction for moving clocks,
depending on how clocks are synchronized and compared. General
Relativity has in addition effects from gravity.
I do not share this point of view.
It is already said, wrongly in my opinion, that we must separate the notion of internal chornotropy of watches from the longitudinal Doppler effect.
For me, this is already excessive.
And then we say: "Let's add general relativity effects due to the presence of masses".
On this ground, I have even more difficulty following the ramblings of scientists.
I am not saying that there are no effects, nor that the effects are not measurable.
I am simply wondering if all this, from A to Z, is not just simple relativistic effects that could be considered pure native SR.
R.H.
Date Sujet#  Auteur
13 Sep 24 * Re: No evidence39LaurenceClarkCrossen
13 Sep 24 +* Re: No evidence2gharnagel
14 Sep 24 i`- Re: No evidence1LaurenceClarkCrossen
14 Sep 24 `* Re: No evidence36Mikko
15 Sep 24  +* Re: No evidence5LaurenceClarkCrossen
15 Sep 24  i+- Re: No evidence1LaurenceClarkCrossen
15 Sep 24  i`* Re: No evidence3Mikko
15 Sep 24  i +- Re: No evidence1Maciej Wozniak
15 Sep 24  i `- Re: No evidence1LaurenceClarkCrossen
15 Sep 24  `* Re: No evidence30LaurenceClarkCrossen
15 Sep 24   +* Re: No evidence11gharnagel
15 Sep 24   i+* Re: No evidence9LaurenceClarkCrossen
16 Sep 24   ii`* Re: No evidence8gharnagel
16 Sep 24   ii +- Re: No evidence (rotating frames)1Ross Finlayson
16 Sep 24   ii `* Re: No evidence6gharnagel
18 Sep 24   ii  `* Re: No evidence5gharnagel
18 Sep 24   ii   `* Re: No evidence4gharnagel
18 Sep 24   ii    `* Re: No evidence3gharnagel
20 Sep 24   ii     `* Re: No evidence2gharnagel
20 Sep 24   ii      `- Re: No evidence1Maciej Wozniak
16 Sep 24   i`- Re: No evidence1gharnagel
15 Sep 24   `* Re: No evidence18Mikko
15 Sep 24    +- Re: No evidence1Maciej Wozniak
15 Sep 24    +* Re: No evidence4LaurenceClarkCrossen
17 Sep 24    i`* Re: No evidence3Mikko
17 Sep 24    i +- Re: No evidence1LaurenceClarkCrossen
20 Sep 24    i `- Re: No evidence1Thomas Heger
15 Sep 24    +* Re: No evidence5LaurenceClarkCrossen
17 Sep 24    i`* Re: No evidence4Mikko
17 Sep 24    i `* Re: No evidence3Richard Hachel
19 Sep 24    i  `* Re: No evidence2Mikko
19 Sep 24    i   `- Re: No evidence1Richard Hachel
15 Sep 24    `* Re: No evidence7LaurenceClarkCrossen
16 Sep 24     +- Re: No evidence1gharnagel
16 Sep 24     +- Re: No evidence1LaurenceClarkCrossen
17 Sep 24     `* Re: No evidence4Mikko
17 Sep 24      `* Re: No evidence3LaurenceClarkCrossen
19 Sep 24       `* Re: No evidence2Mikko
19 Sep 24        `- Re: No evidence1Maciej Wozniak

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