Re: Space-time interval (2)

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Sujet : Re: Space-time interval (2)
De : r.hachel (at) *nospam* jesauspu.fr (Richard Hachel)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 14. Aug 2024, 13:54:56
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Le 14/08/2024 à 14:36, Python a écrit :
Le 14/08/2024 à 14:25, Richard "stuffed-shirt Hachel" Lengrand a écrit :
Le 14/08/2024 à 06:25, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
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Well, Richard, the GPS disproves your theory, because
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Because it suddenly becomes real when it's
comfortable for a relativistic idiot.
 What is very funny in the relationships that I would have had all my life with other men, and which consisted of an immense cock contest: "We do not want this man to reign over us", "My cock is bigger than yours, Hachel", "I prefer that we shut up rather than see your rat's snout", is that I am sometimes opposed to contradictory reproaches.
 You should have noticed a common trait here. Whoever you've been
talking with there were at least one pompous imbecile involved.
 (Hint: it's you)
 
And they say: "GPS contradicts your shitty doctrine".
 Except that no, GPS proves that I am right.
 No anisochrony, the speed of light becomes infinite.
 And GPS ends its life in the dustbins of history.
 The few times you've written about GPS on fr.sci.physique you've
only shown that you do not know at all how it works and pulled
out a bunch of idiotic fantasies out of nowhere. Like that
receivers contain an atomic clock (!!!) or that synchronization
was about a distant 4-d clock, etc.
Yes, that's what I said.
We can't synchronize all the watches in our 3D universe.
You're old enough to understand an impossibility or a prohibition.
Example: "Jean-Pierre, don't pee in the bed".
Once the impossibility is understood, and the notion of universal anisochrony accepted, we will then ask ourselves a question:
"In the days of sailing ships, it was not important to know the notion of microseconds, but now that we have satellites and want to use GPS, it becomes essential, but how are we going to resolve such a spatio-temporal quagmire where anisochrony reigns over everything?"
For this to work, we need flat time. A universal present common to our entire local inertial structure, and as the immense Hachel says: "I do not propose it, because it does not exist, it is only a human fantasy of the same type as the fantasy of the flat earth and the Titanic embracing the icebergs".
So how do we do it?
Well, this notion of flat time, we will imagine it, and we will consider that there exists a fourth spatial dimension in the universe, and that an observer, placed there, perpendicular and very far away, apprehends our 3D universe in a perfectly synchronous way for him, and it is on this abstract but useful concept that we will synchronize all terrestrial watches.
They are all synchronous with him. No, between them. But that is enough to give an interesting impression of global simultaneity.
Universal time is therefore an abstract measurement, resulting from an abstract thought, creating an abstract synchronization point.
But that is enough to give a coherent set called universal time.
R.H.
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