Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity

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Sujet : Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity
De : r.hachel (at) *nospam* liscati.fr.invalid (Richard Hachel)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 09. Oct 2024, 13:28:27
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Le 09/10/2024 à 11:43, Mikko a écrit :
On 2024-10-07 21:46:42 +0000, Richard Hachel said:
 
Le 07/10/2024 à 23:10, film.art@gmail.com (JanPB) a écrit :
On Mon, 30 Sep 2024 22:52:42 +0000, Richard Hachel wrote:
 
Just gobbledygook.
  Voilà un mot bien hardi envers le docteur Hachel, et surtout bien injuste.
 If you don't like that word then learn to use the Common Language.
Dr. Richard Hachel is probably one of the Usenet posters most attached to the meaning of language and most saddened by the fog of words.
Especially the fog of concepts in SR, where it is very difficult for the novice, or even the big shot, to understand what he himself is saying (the relativistic Joe Biden phenomenon).
I have never introduced words, principles, or concepts without a precise idea of ​​what I was saying.
And if you look closely, I have only introduced two new words (anisochrony and chronotropy) and four new concepts (elasticity of distances which is responsible for a spatial zoom effect definitively explaining the Langevin paradox, more accurate calculation of the proper times of accelerated objects, radial contraction of the relativistic disk,
vision of the universe live for any observer).
There are words that I use, but you also use them like "relativistic barycenter, relativistic apparent velocity, hyperplane of simultaneity" and these words are important to use, and I am not the one who invented them.
There remains the problem, perhaps important, of my very poor knowledge of English, and the difficulties that can arise in the translation of words like reference frame, frame of reference, etc., which do not always mean the same thing in French.
A last word: the term reference frame is itself quite screwy if we consider that time is not absolute, not chronotropy, which is obviously equal throughout the frame of reference, but the simultaneity of existence. Thus, a (3D) reference frame remains identical by translation, or even a Newtonian (4D) reference frame. But a relativistic reference frame explodes if we want to perform a translation there, each observer having his own, with his own non-negotiable present time hyperplane.
N.B. Je suis en train de réaliser un petit pdf très simple (niveau collège) portant pour titre :
"la relativité de la simultanéité en relativité restreinte et la synchronisation des horloges".
C'est le B A BA de tout article traitant de la relativité restreinte.
J'aimerai trouver quelqu'un qui s'associe à l'article en le critiquant positivement, sinon c'est pas la peine, et qui possède les capacité de le traduire en américain, chose que je ne peux pas faire sans y laisser de possibles coquilles. R.H.
Date Sujet#  Auteur
1 Oct 24 * the notion of relativity of simultaneity71Richard Hachel
1 Oct 24 +* Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity40Python
1 Oct 24 i+* Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity36Thomas Heger
1 Oct 24 ii+- Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity1Python
1 Oct 24 ii`* Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity34Richard Hachel
1 Oct 24 ii `* Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity33Python
1 Oct 24 ii  +* Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity2Richard Hachel
1 Oct 24 ii  i`- Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity1Python
2 Oct 24 ii  `* Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity30Thomas Heger
2 Oct 24 ii   +* Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity26Python
2 Oct 24 ii   i+* Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity3Maciej Wozniak
2 Oct 24 ii   ii`* Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity2Python
2 Oct 24 ii   ii `- Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity1Maciej Wozniak
2 Oct 24 ii   i+- Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity1Richard Hachel
3 Oct 24 ii   i`* Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity21Thomas Heger
3 Oct 24 ii   i +* Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity4Python
3 Oct 24 ii   i i`* Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity3Richard Hachel
3 Oct 24 ii   i i `* Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity2Python
3 Oct 24 ii   i i  `- Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity1Richard Hachel
3 Oct 24 ii   i +* Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity5Richard Hachel
3 Oct 24 ii   i i+* Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity2Python
3 Oct 24 ii   i ii`- Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity1Richard Hachel
5 Oct 24 ii   i i`* Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity2Thomas Heger
5 Oct 24 ii   i i `- Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity1Richard Hachel
3 Oct 24 ii   i `* Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity11Richard Hachel
3 Oct 24 ii   i  +- Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity1Python
5 Oct 24 ii   i  `* Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity9Thomas Heger
5 Oct 24 ii   i   `* Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity8Richard Hachel
6 Oct 24 ii   i    `* Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity7Thomas Heger
6 Oct 24 ii   i     +- Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity1Richard Hachel
6 Oct 24 ii   i     `* Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity5Richard Hachel
8 Oct 24 ii   i      `* Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity4Thomas Heger
8 Oct 24 ii   i       `* Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity3Maciej Wozniak
11 Oct 24 ii   i        `* Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity2Thomas Heger
11 Oct 24 ii   i         `- Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity1Richard Hachel
2 Oct 24 ii   `* Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity3Richard Hachel
3 Oct 24 ii    `* Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity2Thomas Heger
3 Oct 24 ii     `- Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity1Richard Hachel
1 Oct 24 i`* Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity3Richard Hachel
1 Oct 24 i +- Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity1Python
2 Oct 24 i `- Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity1Mikko
7 Oct 24 +* Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity27JanPB
7 Oct 24 i`* Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity26Richard Hachel
8 Oct 24 i +* Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity2Python
8 Oct 24 i i`- Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity1Richard Hachel
9 Oct 24 i `* Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity23Mikko
9 Oct 24 i  `* Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity22Richard Hachel
10 Oct 24 i   `* Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity21Mikko
10 Oct 24 i    `* Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity20Richard Hachel
11 Oct 24 i     `* Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity19Mikko
11 Oct 24 i      +- Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity1Richard Hachel
12 Oct 24 i      `* Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity17Thomas Heger
12 Oct 24 i       `* Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity16Mikko
12 Oct 24 i        +- Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity1Maciej Wozniak
12 Oct 24 i        `* Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity14Richard Hachel
12 Oct 24 i         +* Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity9Python
12 Oct 24 i         i+* Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity4Maciej Wozniak
12 Oct 24 i         ii`* Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity3Python
12 Oct 24 i         ii `* Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity2Maciej Wozniak
12 Oct 24 i         ii  `- Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity1Python
12 Oct 24 i         i`* Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity4Richard Hachel
13 Oct 24 i         i `* Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity3Python
13 Oct 24 i         i  `* Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity2Maciej Wozniak
13 Oct 24 i         i   `- Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity1Python
13 Oct 24 i         +* Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity3Thomas Heger
13 Oct 24 i         i`* Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity2Richard Hachel
14 Oct 24 i         i `- Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity1Thomas Heger
13 Oct 24 i         `- Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity1Mikko
14 Oct 24 `* Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity3Sylvia Else
14 Oct 24  +- Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity1Richard Hachel
14 Oct 24  `- Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity1Maciej Wozniak

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