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Sujet : Re: Weakness in the results of the three tests of GR shown in rhe lasr century,.
De : hertz778 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (rhertz)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 31. Oct 2024, 19:44:59
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On Thu, 31 Oct 2024 9:08:38 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

Den 31.10.2024 02:12, skrev ProkaryoticCaspaseHomolog:
<snip>

Hipparcos' mission was most decidedly NOT to "prove relativity right".
Rather, adjustments of stars' measured positions due to general
relativistic effects were among the corrections necessary to minimize
the residuals. Otherwise it would have been IMPOSSIBLE to combine the
data measured over a period of years into a consistent map.
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Nothing was assumed.
When the position of a star was known at different times of a day,
the difference could only be caused by gravitational deflection.
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It was _measured_, not assumed.
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I would put it somewhat differently. Gravitational deflection was
_corrected for_, otherwise the data simply wouldn't make sense.
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OK.
The fact that the data only make sense when gravitational deflection
was corrected for does mean that it, in principle, would be possible
to deduce the gravitational deflection from the measured data.
>
But of course, the gravitational deflection is known, so it
is simpler to correct for it.
<snip>
It's a shame to read the justifications that both of you wrote about the
FRAUDULENT CORRECTIONS made on the HIPPARCOS raw database, TO FORCEFULLY
INCLUDE corrections due to the FALSE DEFLECTION invented in GR, and "SR
corrections" that were made to STEAL THE NON-RELATIVISTIC EFFECT of
aberration, discovered by Bradley centuries ago (even measured the speed
of light with 0.5% error, by 1727).
The parallax effect, mostly 20 times smaller than aberration, was
discovered by Bessel almost 100 years after Bradley. Such effect was
masked by the one caused by aberration.
That NEW CORRECTIONS due to starlight deflection by the Sun, allegedly
covering HALF of the "almost static plane" that is considered a valid
representation of the sky beyond the Solar System, HAD TO BE INTRODUCED
MANUALLY in order TO INSERT GR BY FORCE, tell anyone with two working
neurons THAT IS A FRAUDULENT WAY to reinforce the adoption of GR in
astrometry.
The above paragraph shows that RELATIVISM IS A VIRUS, A PLAGUE THAT HAS
INFECTED SCIENCE, and that relies ON THE IMPOSSIBILITY TO PROVE IT
EXPERIMENTALLY. Only sustained by THEORETICAL CALCULATIONS, born in the
sick mind of Einstein+Eddington+other accomplishes a century ago.
The same Modus Operandi has been used with Pound-Rebka, Hafele-Keating,
Shapiro's proposal and many others since the 60s, just to force the
replacement of Newton-Kepler figure by the one of Einstein.
What makes all these "experiments" outrageous is that NONE OF THE
AUTHORS IS ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE FRAUDULENT RESULTS, because of:
1) The impossibility, for independent sources, to VERIFY such results.
2) The INSIGNIFICANT IMPACT of these experiments and their results in
the daily life of humans and the advance of civilization. GR and SR
remain CONFINED in niches of absurd cults that are: cosmology, astronomy
  and particle physics.
GR and SR will remain, for centuries, as STERILE, PARASITIC THEORIES
that contribute IN NOTHING to the advancement of science, but that EAT
valuable resources and bright minds that could find way better
destinations.
It has to be noted that the driving forces behind the support of
relativism have been relying on (since the 60s) in COMPUTER SCIENCES,
MASSIVE AMOUNT OF GATHERED DATA and STATISTICAL MANIPULATION OF RESULTS,
being that a common occurrence is that:
1) Raw original data IS NEVER AVAILABLE outside a small circle of
people.
2) Algorithms of any kind that were used REMAIN AS UNKNOWN as the
formulae that supported Einstein's 1915 claim that deflection of light
doubled the 1911 Newtonian calculations, plagiarized from von Soldner.
Einstein NEVER DISCLOSED HOW DID HE CALCULATE SUCH VALUE (y = 1).
But fanatic relativists ABOUND. Take, for instance the figure of Jan
(man or woman?), who assert that orbit of planets are known UP TO
NANOSECOND RESOLUTION AND DISTANCES UP TO 1 centimeter.
And all of that is because Jan BELIEVE that data from NASA JPL HORIZONS
database is based ON REAL MEASUREMENTS. You hardly can get a person more
IMBECILE than Jan, who is mentally unable to explore such website TO
FIND THAT the programs behind HORIZONS are originated due to the work of
a single person, who liked to use 14 DIGITS. (John.D.Giorgini).
Computations were done by the Solar System Dynamics Group, Horizons
On-Line Ephemeris System
4800 Oak Grove Drive, Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Pasadena, CA  91109   USA
OBSERVE HOW DATA WITH UP TO 14 DIGITS IS THEORETICALLY GENERATED FROM
PARAMETERS THAT HAVE MUCH LOWER PRECISION. THE EXPANSION IN THE NUMBER
OF DIGITS IS ORIGINATED, MAINLY, BY THE CONVERSION IN ASTRONOMICAL
UNITS, AS DEFINED BY THE International Astronomical Union (IAU).
QUERY ON https://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/horizons/app.html#/:
Ephemeris Type: Osculating Orbital Elements
Target Body: Mars
Coordinate Center: Sun (body center)
Time Specification: Start=2024-10-31 TDB , Stop=2024-11-30, Step=1
(days)
Table Settings: defaults
RESULTS (Observe the date of the last revision)
*********************************************************
Revised: June 21, 2016                 Mars                           499 / 4
 PHYSICAL DATA (updated 2019-Oct-29):
  Vol. mean radius (km) = 3389.92+-0.04   Density (g/cm^3)      = 3.933(5+-4)
  Mass x10^23 (kg)      =    6.4171       Flattening, f         = 1/169.779
  Volume (x10^10 km^3)  =   16.318        Equatorial radius (km)= 3396.19
  Sidereal rot. period  =   24.622962 hr  Sid. rot. rate, rad/s = 0.0000708822
  Mean solar day (sol)  =   88775.24415 s Polar gravity m/s^2   =  3.758
  Core radius (km)      = ~1700           Equ. gravity  m/s^2   =  3.71
  Geometric Albedo      =    0.150
  GM (km^3/s^2)         = 42828.375214    Mass ratio (Sun/Mars) =
3098703.59
  GM 1-sigma (km^3/s^2) = +- 0.00028      Mass of atmosphere, kg= ~ 2.5
x 10^16
  Mean temperature (K)  =  210            Atmos. pressure (bar) =   0.0056
  Obliquity to orbit    =   25.19 deg     Max. angular diam.    =  17.9"
  Mean sidereal orb per =    1.88081578 y Visual mag. V(1,0)    =  -1.52
  Mean sidereal orb per =  686.98 d       Orbital speed,  km/s  =  24.13
  Hill's sphere rad. Rp =  319.8          Escape speed, km/s    =  5.027
                                 Perihelion  Aphelion    Mean
  Solar Constant (W/m^2)         717         493         589
  Maximum Planetary IR (W/m^2)   470         315         390
  Minimum Planetary IR (W/m^2)    30          30          30
**********************************************
EPHEMERIS (EVERY 1 DAY):
2460614.500000000 = A.D. 2024-Oct-31 00:00:00.0000 TDB
 EC= 9.338519612718710E-02 QR= 2.066682087213624E+08 IN=
1.847663775996107E+00
 OM= 4.948919028212440E+01 W = 2.867247660006598E+02 Tp= 2460439.026265358552
 N = 6.064600760306989E-06 MA= 9.194499168660577E+01 TA=
1.025371584115114E+02
 A = 2.279559167118513E+08 AD= 2.492436247023403E+08 PR=
5.936087373734671E+07
2460615.500000000 = A.D. 2024-Nov-01 00:00:00.0000 TDB
 EC= 9.338597067445900E-02 QR= 2.066680274698931E+08 IN=
1.847662094273816E+00
 OM= 4.948916076113913E+01 W = 2.867247994972711E+02 Tp= 2460439.026448893826
 N = 6.064600966695355E-06 MA= 9.246888017005475E+01 TA=
1.030463381484449E+02
 A = 2.279559115400409E+08 AD= 2.492437956101888E+08 PR=
5.936087171719834E+07
2460616.500000000 = A.D. 2024-Nov-02 00:00:00.0000 TDB
.....
.....
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Every day a SUCKER is born. But nine SOB are born also.
Fuck the virus of relativism, worse than communism.

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