Re: I asked ChatGPT to prove that Hafele-Keating 1971 experiment was A HOAX.

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Sujet : Re: I asked ChatGPT to prove that Hafele-Keating 1971 experiment was A HOAX.
De : hitlong (at) *nospam* yahoo.com (gharnagel)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 01. May 2025, 17:21:10
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On Thu, 1 May 2025 15:34:25 +0000, rhertz wrote:

I asked to the chinese DeepSeek to analyze the comment generated by the
US ChatGPT, which is in the OP of this thread. I copied entirely the
analysis. This is what DeepSeek answered (agree partially, but defend
the experiment as pioneering). It misses that the data was THEORETICALLY
GENERATED, by decomposing the Schwarzschild solution (SR + GR) and
ignored the GROSS ESTIMATION of the readings of the clock at Washington.
Well trained to not have a front collision with ChatGPT.
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Your text presents a highly skeptical view of the Hafele-Keating
experiment, challenging its validity as empirical proof of relativistic
time dilation. Below, I analyze the certainties and uncertainties in
each claim, assessing their factual basis and potential biases.
....
Very interesting.  DeepSeek detected Hertz's skepticism, as many of we
here have done, and pinned his ears back quite well while acknowledging
the dated nature of the H-K experiment.
It's of particular note that when it offered newer experimental
evidence, Hertz declined and kept nit-picking the H-K data.  This
demonstrates that Hertz isn't interested in truth, only in finding
fault (unjustified) with relativity.
But it does look like DeepSeek is better than ChatGPT because the
latter seems to be swayed more easily by the nature of the question
rather than facts (as indicated by Hertz's results with the muon
question).  Perhaps Hertz would submit his H-K question to ChatGPT
and his muon one to DeepSeek?

Date Sujet#  Auteur
29 Apr 25 * I asked ChatGPT to prove that Hafele-Keating 1971 experiment was A HOAX.24rhertz
30 Apr 25 +* Re: I asked ChatGPT to prove that Hafele-Keating 1971 experiment was A HOAX.20Octaviano Russkikh Huan
30 Apr 25 i+* Re: I asked ChatGPT to prove that Hafele-Keating 1971 experiment was A HOAX.18rhertz
30 Apr 25 ii`* Re: I asked ChatGPT to prove that Hafele-Keating 1971 experiment was A HOAX.17Ross Finlayson
30 Apr 25 ii `* Re: I asked ChatGPT to prove that Hafele-Keating 1971 experiment was A HOAX.16gharnagel
30 Apr 25 ii  `* Re: I asked ChatGPT to prove that Hafele-Keating 1971 experiment was A HOAX.15Ross Finlayson
30 Apr 25 ii   `* Re: I asked ChatGPT to prove that Hafele-Keating 1971 experiment was A HOAX.14gharnagel
30 Apr 25 ii    +- Re: I asked ChatGPT to prove that Hafele-Keating 1971 experiment was A HOAX.1Dameian Babayan
1 May 25 ii    `* Re: I asked ChatGPT to prove that Hafele-Keating 1971 experiment was A HOAX.12Ross Finlayson
1 May 25 ii     `* Re: I asked ChatGPT to prove that Hafele-Keating 1971 experiment was A HOAX.11gharnagel
1 May 25 ii      +* Re: I asked ChatGPT to prove that Hafele-Keating 1971 experiment was A HOAX.6rhertz
1 May 25 ii      i`* Re: I asked ChatGPT to prove that Hafele-Keating 1971 experiment was A HOAX.5gharnagel
1 May 25 ii      i `* Re: I asked ChatGPT to prove that Hafele-Keating 1971 experiment was A HOAX.4rhertz
2 May 25 ii      i  `* Re: I asked ChatGPT to prove that Hafele-Keating 1971 experiment was A HOAX.3gharnagel
2 May 25 ii      i   +- Re: I asked ChatGPT to prove that Hafele-Keating 1971 experiment was A HOAX.1Maciej Woźniak
2 May 25 ii      i   `- Re: I asked ChatGPT to prove that Hafele-Keating 1971 experiment was A HOAX.1Yunesky Zhigmytov Ping
1 May 25 ii      `* Re: I asked ChatGPT to prove that Hafele-Keating 1971 experiment was A HOAX.4Ross Finlayson
1 May 25 ii       `* Re: I asked ChatGPT to prove that Hafele-Keating 1971 experiment was A HOAX.3Ross Finlayson
1 May 25 ii        `* Re: I asked ChatGPT to prove that Hafele-Keating 1971 experiment was A HOAX.2gharnagel
2 May 25 ii         `- Re: I asked ChatGPT to prove that Hafele-Keating 1971 experiment was A HOAX.1Ross Finlayson
30 Apr 25 i`- Re: I asked ChatGPT to prove that Hafele-Keating 1971 experiment was A HOAX.1Alexey Mulatov
30 Apr 25 `* Re: I asked ChatGPT to prove that Hafele-Keating 1971 experiment was A HOAX.3Ezekiel Bazunov
1 May 25  `* Re: I asked ChatGPT to prove that Hafele-Keating 1971 experiment was A HOAX.2Sibtain Haritonov
1 May 25   `- Re: I asked ChatGPT to prove that Hafele-Keating 1971 experiment was A HOAX.1Prigojin Mochulov Tsen

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