Re: Perfect clocks

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Sujet : Re: Perfect clocks
De : hitlong (at) *nospam* yahoo.com (gharnagel)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 06. May 2024, 00:59:43
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Maciej Wozniak wrote:
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W dniu 04.05.2024 o 17:46, Tom Roberts pisze:
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On 5/1/24 12:06 PM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
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sane people, as anyone can check at GPS, keep assuming the second to be  9 192 631 770 on Earth,
 This is not an "assumption", this is the definition of the second --
that's what these words mean.
>
1) Poincare has said that axiooms are "definitions
in disguise", or something like that. I would say
it differently - anyway, definitions are assumed.
SOme are, but not all.  This is an example of Wozzie pretending that
something is true therefore something else is also true.  "T'ain't
necessarily so.  We are free to choose a standard fro length, for
time, for mass, for charge, etc.  Other civilizations may choose
different standards, so in that sense (and only in that sense) are
such definitions "assumed."  But not in the way Wozzie wants to be
deceitful about it.

2)Could find a quoting where you admit that in the
context of GPS the word means something else.
The fact is that if one had an accurate 1 second per second clock
aboard the GPS, it would tick at exactly 1 second per second, but
it would not appear to from the ground.  In fact, the first bird
up there had exactly that and it didn't tick at 1 second per second
at the ground.  That's why they switched to the alternate timing.

See: even such pathetic pieces of fanatic shit
like you or Harrie can't lie 100% of time.
See?  Wozzie lies ALL the time.

On a GPS satellite, the usual definition of the second applies.

No.
Yes!  Wozzie lies again.

But in order for the SIGNALS from GPS satellites to be received
on earth at the correct frequencies, the time-base on the satellite
must tick about
[4 ticks in 10^10 slower]
Yes.  So what?

Common sense was warning your idiot guru, wasn't it?
The idiots were the engineers that disbelieved relativity.  Fortunately,
sanity prevailed and a switch was provided to modify the on-board clock.
Wozzie calls that a "time-base" and pretends that it means GR is wrong,
what?!  The guy makes no sense at all.

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