Re: I dare to relativists to explain local time: t-vx/c²

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Sujet : Re: I dare to relativists to explain local time: t-vx/c²
De : r.hachel (at) *nospam* liscati.fr.invalid (Richard Hachel)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 09. Oct 2024, 13:53:18
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Le 09/10/2024 à 11:59, Mikko a écrit :
On 2024-10-08 07:28:20 +0000, Thomas Heger said:
 
Am Sonntag000006, 06.10.2024 um 10:43 schrieb Mikko:
On 2024-10-03 00:55:55 +0000, rhertz said:
 
Originally, local time was FOUND by Voigt in 1887. Here is the link:
 https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Translation:On_the_Principle_of_Doppler
 Go to equations 8 and 10.
 Lorentz "borrowed" Voigt's local time, without crediting him.
 Lirentz' local time is not the same as Voigt's.
 Local time is the isometric coordinate time of an isometric
coordinate system. An important aspect to understand about
it is that it is not local. It is valid for the region where
the coordinate system is valid. At the time Voigt, Larmor and
Lorentz presented their transformations it was assumed that
the entire Universe could be covered with one such system.
 
What is more interesting than Hendrik Lorentz, that is Einstein's 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies'.
 No "local time" there so irrelevant to the topic of this discussion.
Que pensait Henri Poincaré lorsqu'il écrivait « heure locale » ?
Que pensait Albert Eisntein ?
Que pensais Minkowski, Lorentz?
On ne le sait pas... Parlaient-il de la relativité des chronotropies par changement de repère inertiel ?
Parlaient-il de la relativité de la notion d'hyperplan de temps présent dans un même repère ?
Il semblerait qu'ils parleraient à tous du premier concept.
Qui est vrai.
Les deux sont vrais.
Mais alors ils ont menti par omission. Ils n'ont pas parlé du principe de base, qui est, justement le deuxième concept.
R.H.
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