Re: Galaxies don't fly apart because their entire frame is rotating

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De : ttt_heg (at) *nospam* web.de (Thomas Heger)
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Date : 30. Mar 2024, 08:41:50
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Am 29.03.2024 um 11:33 schrieb Maciej Wozniak:
W dniu 29.03.2024 o 10:41, Paul B. Andersen pisze:
Den 29.03.2024 08:51, skrev Thomas Heger:
I assume, that the observer can be used and actually is used as
'base', from where the universe is observed.
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But that would make it impossible to measure the state of motion of
the observer, because the observer does not move in repect to himself.
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Never heard about gyroscopes and accelerometers?
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Never heard about the elevator of your idiot guru?
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If the observer rotates (unknowingly) and observes a scenery with significant depth, he would see that scene as a spiral vortex.
This is so because light has a finite velocity and further away means longer ago.
If there is an overlaying forground rotation, the background structure would become distorted to a vortex (even if it isn't).
Now cosmologists have a wellknown habit to ignore the delay caused by the finite speed of light, hence tend to take the observed image for real and make no attempts to compensate the delay.
This is actually, what I had criticised in Einstein's 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' several times, too, because Einstein didn't even mention the delay and made not effort to eliminate its effects.
In cosmology the problem is much more obvious, but cosmologists make not attempts to compensate this effect, neither.
Instead they are looking for the cause of rotation of the vortex structure (what is rather silly).
TH

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