Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.

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Sujet : Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.
De : ttt_heg (at) *nospam* web.de (Thomas Heger)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 13. Sep 2024, 08:37:30
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Am Samstag000007, 07.09.2024 um 09:49 schrieb Maciej Wozniak:
W dniu 07.09.2024 o 09:26, Thomas Heger pisze:
Am Freitag000006, 06.09.2024 um 12:22 schrieb Maciej Wozniak:
W dniu 06.09.2024 o 12:16, Thomas Heger pisze:
Am Donnerstag000005, 05.09.2024 um 10:26 schrieb Maciej Wozniak:
W dniu 05.09.2024 o 08:57, Thomas Heger pisze:
Am Mittwoch000004, 04.09.2024 um 23:10 schrieb Python:
Le 04/09/2024 à 23:03, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
W dniu 04.09.2024 o 21:30, Python pisze:
Le 04/09/2024 à 20:21, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
W dniu 04.09.2024 o 19:48, gharnagel pisze:
On Wed, 4 Sep 2024 13:09:57 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
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Common sense was warning your idiot guru.
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St. John the Divine was warning Warped Wozniak, the
bald-faced liar:
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St John (fuck his absurd threats anyway) won't
help,  t'=t in GPS,  at least if by t, t' we
mean clock  indications.
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How such t and t' are clock indications.
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According to the own definition of
your [Einstein] - time is "what clocks
indicate",
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Don't be lazy, Wozniak, read! "time is "what clocks indicate" is
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This is wrong!
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Time does not depend on clocks, because clocks are manmade artifacts.
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Are they? And so is time, except that it is
an abstract.
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Wrist-watches, for instance, are tiny machines.
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But those machines are made by human beings.
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It would make no sense at all to assume, that nature would produce wrist-watches or cares, whether or not humans do.
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Therefore time is not related to watches!
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Nope. Therefore time is not related to nature.
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Physics is a natural science.
 There is nothing natural in physics or any
other domain of science. And time is not a
natural entity - neither UTimeC, nor TimeAI,
nor any of zone times nor any other time
existing.
All natural sciences (like e.g. biology or cosmology) observe natural things, which exist outside of the realm of human interventions.
This is what I would call 'natural science'.
The realm within our influence is not really science, but - for instance- engineering.

 
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Most people think otherwise and confuse physics with engineering.
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But that's wrong, because the objects of physics aren't machines, but things, which we observe in nature.
 You've never observed a time, you've
just imagined it. Sorry.
Well, possibly...
BUT: we observe natural phenomena, which have a certain frequency.
For instance, we observe day and night or the rythims of the seasons.
These are natural phenomena and indicate, that nature does in fact use something, what we humans call 'time'.
TH

Date Sujet#  Auteur
4 Sep 24 * Yes, t'=t in GPS.60Maciej Wozniak
4 Sep 24 `* Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.59Python
4 Sep 24  `* Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.58Maciej Wozniak
4 Sep 24   `* Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.57gharnagel
4 Sep 24    `* Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.56Maciej Wozniak
4 Sep 24     +* Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.14Python
4 Sep 24     i`* Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.13Maciej Wozniak
4 Sep 24     i `* Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.12Python
5 Sep 24     i  +- Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.1Maciej Wozniak
5 Sep 24     i  `* Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.10Thomas Heger
5 Sep 24     i   `* Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.9Maciej Wozniak
6 Sep 24     i    `* Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.8Thomas Heger
6 Sep 24     i     `* Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.7Maciej Wozniak
7 Sep 24     i      `* Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.6Thomas Heger
13 Sep 24     i       `* Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.5Thomas Heger
13 Sep 24     i        +- Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.1Athel Cornish-Bowden
13 Sep 24     i        `* Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.3Maciej Wozniak
14 Sep 24     i         `* Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.2Thomas Heger
14 Sep 24     i          `- Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.1Maciej Wozniak
5 Sep 24     `* Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.41gharnagel
5 Sep 24      +- Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.1Python
5 Sep 24      `* Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.39gharnagel
5 Sep 24       `* Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.38Maciej Wozniak
6 Sep 24        `* Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.37gharnagel
6 Sep 24         `* Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.36Maciej Wozniak
7 Sep 24          `* Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.35gharnagel
7 Sep 24           `* Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.34Maciej Wozniak
8 Sep 24            `* Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.33gharnagel
8 Sep 24             `* Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.32Maciej Wozniak
9 Sep 24              `* Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.31gharnagel
10 Sep 24               `* Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.30gharnagel
10 Sep 24                `* Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.29gharnagel
10 Sep 24                 `* Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.28Maciej Wozniak
10 Sep 24                  +* Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.8Python
10 Sep 24                  i`* Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.7Maciej Wozniak
10 Sep 24                  i `* Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.6Python
10 Sep 24                  i  `* Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.5Maciej Wozniak
10 Sep 24                  i   `* Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.4Python
10 Sep 24                  i    `* Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.3Maciej Wozniak
10 Sep 24                  i     `* Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.2Python
11 Sep 24                  i      `- Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.1Maciej Wozniak
10 Sep 24                  `* Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.19gharnagel
10 Sep 24                   `* Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.18Maciej Wozniak
10 Sep 24                    +* Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.7Python
10 Sep 24                    i`* Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.6Maciej Wozniak
10 Sep 24                    i +* Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.4Python
10 Sep 24                    i i+- Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.1Maciej Wozniak
11 Sep 24                    i i`* Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.2Richard Hachel
11 Sep 24                    i i `- Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.1Python
10 Sep 24                    i `- Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.1Python
11 Sep 24                    `* Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.10gharnagel
11 Sep 24                     `* Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.9Maciej Wozniak
12 Sep 24                      `* Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.8gharnagel
12 Sep 24                       `* Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.7Maciej Wozniak
13 Sep 24                        `* Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.6gharnagel
13 Sep 24                         `* Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.5Maciej Wozniak
14 Sep 24                          `* Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.4gharnagel
14 Sep 24                           `* Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.3Maciej Wozniak
14 Sep 24                            +- Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.1Richard Hachel
15 Sep 24                            `- Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.1gharnagel

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