Re: Einstein's Mistakes

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Sujet : Re: Einstein's Mistakes
De : ttt_heg (at) *nospam* web.de (Thomas Heger)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 30. Oct 2024, 10:11:08
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Am Dienstag000029, 29.10.2024 um 15:35 schrieb The Starmaker:
Thomas Heger wrote:
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Am Montag000028, 28.10.2024 um 06:26 schrieb The Starmaker:
LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:
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Starmaker: It was already in the marketplace for a long time.
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sorry, i only know of only one Manhattan Project..
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Sure, but what were they doing there in Los Alamos?
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To me it looked like a concentration camp for physicists.
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TH
 Physicists there were held against their own will. They did not
volunteer for it, they were...drafted.
Sure: Los Alamos looked like barracks, which were placed remotely in the desert.
But my assumption was, that the atomic bomb was much older than the Manhattan project, which had the purpose, to 'gag' the physicists and sort out those, which were not willing to comply
(e.g. proponents of 'free energy', abiogenic oil theory, homeopathy and similar heresies).
The Soviets did something quite similar and regarded e.g. Andre Sacharov ('father' of the Soviet bomb) as 'enemy of the people' (for what reason I don't know).
The atomic bomb itself was most likely already known befor WWII.
A reason to think so:
Einstein and Szillard patented their 'Einstein fridge' in 1930 in Berlin.
The only known use of that device is as part of a fast breeding reactor (those reactors that produce plutonium).
But for which purpose would you like to breed plutonium, if you had no atomic bomb?
The Einstein fridge doesn't coll (this was at least found out by a bunch of students, who rebuilt the device).
It is kind of 'three substances absorption cooler' (with ammonia, water and butan in liquid form).
(To me this 'fridge' does not look like a device, which could eventually cool. Therefore I would support the claim of those students.)
A theory of my taste goes like this:
the bomb was already known in 1930 and Szillard and Einstein played a role in its development (undertanken long befor 1930 and certainly not at Los Alamos).
To reward Einstein and Szillard secretly, that patent was used, even if the device does not cool.
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TH

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