Re: "Time" vs "physical time"

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Sujet : Re: "Time" vs "physical time"
De : relativity (at) *nospam* paulba.no (Paul.B.Andersen)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 08. Aug 2024, 18:16:40
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Den 06.08.2024 11:15, skrev Richard Hachel:
Of course, solar time depends on the person's location
on the globe, and on a solar clock, it's not the same time in Paris and in Amsterdam.
But where I think you're making a mistake is when you think that we can adjust this with a universal clock, independent of the sun, and which would give a universal time.
This conception is false, and any clock can only give a local time.
If I take even Romeo and Juliet, sitting on two different benches, in the same schoolyard. They look at each other, they make little signs to each other. Suddenly Romeo sends a little beep on Juliet's cell phone.
Human thought is formatted in such a way that the moment when Romeo beeps is the same for both speakers, that is to say that this moment is in a sort of "universal present", a "plan of universal present time".
This vision of the world is completely false.
But the prejudice is so ingrained that anyone who says otherwise will be massacred by the tribe of monkeys that constitute humanity, and who are incapable of peeing without disgorging the toilet bowl.
 R.H.
You claim that clocks in Norway and France are not synchronous
even if both show the time UTC + 2h because of the universal
anisochrony.
The question is about your anisochrony, so please read this and
answer the questions.
I leave Oslo Airport (Gardemoen Airport) when the watch on the airport
shows 12.00.00
I arrive at Paris Airport (Charles De Gaulle Airport) when the watch
on the airport shows 13.30.32.
The difference is T = 1h 30m 32s
Is this a real time, or is it impossible to know the real time
because of the universal anisochrony?
The distance in the ground frame between the airports is L = 1358.03 km.
Is the real speed of the plane in the ground frame v = L/T = 900 km/h,
or is it impossible to know the real speed of the plane because
of the universal anisochrony?
The question is simple:
Is it possible to calculate the real duration of the journey
by comparing the reading of the clock in Oslo at the departure
and the reading of the clock in Paris at arrival?
Yes or no, please.
I can understand why you find it very hard to answer
questions when they are taken from practical scenarios
in the real world, and not from your fantasy world.
--
Paul
https://paulba.no/

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