Re: [SR and synchronization] Cognitive Dissonances and Mental Blockage

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Sujet : Re: [SR and synchronization] Cognitive Dissonances and Mental Blockage
De : python (at) *nospam* invalid.org (Python)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 21. Aug 2024, 08:31:02
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Le 21/08/2024 à 08:30, Thomas Heger a écrit :
Am Dienstag000020, 20.08.2024 um 08:42 schrieb Python:
Le 20/08/2024 à 08:39, Python a écrit :
Le 20/08/2024 à 08:30, Thomas Heger a écrit :
Am Montag000019, 19.08.2024 um 14:56 schrieb Python:
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There is also no equation, which could eventually be interpreted as delay calculation.
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As I've shown there is. A single step from the provided equations
leads to t_A = t_B - (AB)/c
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Delay for a signal from A->B in distance x would be:
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x=c*t => delay (A->B)= x/c
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Extremely simple, isn't it?
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Extremely stupid insteed x=c*t is not generally true. x/c is
not at all the delay your asking for. (AB)/c is such a delay.
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Einstein defined two coordinate systems (K and k).
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System k was placed with its center upon the axis of x of system K.
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So the value 'x' is a coordinate in respect to system K  with distance |x| to system K's center.
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Now I use this setting and place A in the center of K and B in the center of k.
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So: the distance from A to B is x.
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Well, yes, this was a little bad, because I had to explain it in the first place, before I could use this setting.
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What you "explain" is, again, something you made up out of nothing.
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Systems K and k are even defined yet in paragraph 2.
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It makes basically no sense to put the center of K at A and the
center of k at B. K and k are in relative motion while clock-A
and clock-B are mutually at rest. So your "setting" is setting
v to 0.
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Addendum : "the distance from A to B is x": this is wrong too.
x is the coordinate of an event in system K, it is not, in
general, the distance between origins of K and k.
 'x' is a generic coordinate in system K and means a distance from the center of K to a point on the x-axis.
 Since system k was placed with its center upon the x-axis and B in the center of k, the distance from A to B would actually be x.
Systems k and K are not even mentioned in part I.2. So "system k was
placed with its center upon the x-axis and B in the center of k"
is a figment of your imagination in no way related to A.E. article.

But, of course, your critique is valid and you should not use generic variables for special purposes.
 Therefore I made already the proposal to call the distance from A to B 'd'.
AB, (AB) or \overbar(AB) make the job for every one but you.

BTW: x was not meant as coordinate of an event, because system K and k were defined as Euclidian coordinate systems.

Such a coordinate system does not contain time in any way, hence cannot address events.
k and K are defined as 4-D dimensional systems with coordinates
x, y, z, t and epsilon, nu, eta, tau. BOTH include a time coordinate
so BOTH are representing EVENTS.
"does not contain time in any way" ? How can you be so clueless ??? Or
is it deliberates lies ???

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