Re: IS THE AFTERLIFE RELATIVISTIC?

On 12/5/24 09:18, The Starmaker wrote:

The Starmaker wrote:

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George Hammond wrote:

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On 12/4/2024 1:50 PM, rhertz wrote:
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Is there an afterlife?
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[Hammond]
YES... Every adult animal who is less than 100% fully grown
WILL EXPERIENCE an AFTERLIFE whose length is proportional to
the animals "growth curve deficit".
     And since no animal, including humans, have ever reached
100% full growth... everyone will experience an Afterlife !
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And if it exists, is it valid for every species in the Universe?
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[Hammond]
YES.... every species that has a "brain" will experience an
AFTERLIFE if it less than 100% fully grown at adulthood...
which by simple observation seems to include all of them!
     And BTW it is doubtful that plants have an Afterlife,
since they do not have a brain.
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Or only for species with consciousness. Do all humans have
consciousness?
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[Hammond]
All animals with a brain have "consciousness", and no animal
on Earth has ever achived 100% full growth (the average
World adult animal is only 85% fully grown including humans)
..therefore all animals and all people go to "Heaven"
when they die... Biologically speaking this is necessary to
achieve the remaining 15% of the complete growth of the animal. !

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Have insects consciousness? And dolphins, wolves, dogs, birds?
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[Hammond]
Yep.... every living animal goes to Heaven when it dies !

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Before they are born, they don't exist. Every species gather atoms from
everywhere, with particular rules about how they got together into a
living form. Once born, every species keep gathering atoms to grow,
until the embedded time-out tells every organism to start shedding atoms
to the surrounding space, until they cease to do it and die.
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But consciousness is immaterial, so it's based on a delicate
accumulation of bunches of energy, which are interconnected in very
complex ways. Memories, feelings, patterns of behavior, needs, etc.,
just accumulate and vanish randomly while growing. What remains by the
time of death?
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Life looks like the Big Bang Theory. It's created from nothing, grows
until it decay and disappear. What remains? NOTHING that can be
registered.
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I think that the same thing happens to every human.
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Nothing remains, nor matter neither energy. Life is like a chain of
dreams, and time is something that doesn't exist.

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[Hammond}
Well now you're going into an esoteric dissertation on the theory of
EVERYTHING which goes way way beyond the theory of an AFTERLIFE !
     I suggest we try to nail down the theory of the Afterlife before we
try to propose a "THEORY OF EVERYTHING"
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Meanwhile, thanks for a VERY INTERESTING and highly INTELLECTUAL post !
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Best regards, George

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The 8th dimension is not an Afterlife. It is a Next-to-Life.
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Now, you crawl on the surface of the earth. In the 8th dimension
you can fly.
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Can yous people not learn from Nature?
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A caterpillar crawls on the ground...
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then it goes into Next-to-Life (Not AfterLife) and
it flys ...you call it...butterfly.
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There  is no BeforeLife. When does Before Begin????

 i know yous people have been brainwashed...like forever,
 BUT YOUS DON'T UNDERSTAND!
 i don't have time to deprogrames yous.
  THERE IS NO BEFORELIFE!
  It...NowLife.
 NextLife. Next-to-Life.
 for example..
 people say
"You look like your Mother!"
 or
"You look like your Father!"
 or
"You look like your Mother and your Father!!"
 YOU ARE your mother and your father!
 You are a mutant. (for a lack of a better word)
  Some mothers hate their son because he looks like her ex.
  It IS her x.
 just a smaller version...
  i don't have time to deprogrames yous.

Yes you will die and it is feasible that your
brain will be eaten by maggots like billions of
other people before you, however some are cooked
into black carbon that is burned and your bones
will be crushed into a calcium powder using possibly
over 10 gallons of propane and bone grinders.  Most
embalming does not even suppress maggots.
Like others here you are not interested in creating
any sort of afterlife for either you or anyone else.
Einstein was incinerated mostly back in the 1950s,
with some of his brain being preserved against his
wishes.  Carl Sagan has already died of Leukemia, and
who knows how far away the SETI aliens might be if they
exist.  Billions of people are still incessantly corralled
to their death in a manner similar to time immemorial,
which in the physical world appears to be a fate worse
than hell, visited upon everyone no matter how good or
bad they have been, against which there is no repeal.
If only people did not want sex, then they would not
curse children with something called life, leading
to pain and turmoil resulting in inevitable doom.