Re: Einstein FRAUD with the paper on m=E/c^2

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Sujet : Re: Einstein FRAUD with the paper on m=E/c^2
De : relativity (at) *nospam* paulba.no (Paul.B.Andersen)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 04. Mar 2025, 14:35:41
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Den 04.03.2025 00:58, skrev rhertz:
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 MY FINAL COMMENT: I'm an electronic engineer with vast practical
experience, in particular in the field of instruments. As an analogy to
my doubt about E=mc^2, I bring this case: How was defined what 1 Ohm
was, around 1900? By consensus, being UK instrumental in such adopted
definition. What happened with the instruments that measured resistance
after this consensus about what 1 Ohm? They were calibrated to verify
the new standard. Same with voltmeters and amperometers. Before the
adoption of standards by international consensus, there existed dozens
of different values for the same measurement. After the adoption of the
standards, all of them converged to the same value. So, it doesn't
impress me that such values of resistance, voltage and current can be
now "measured" with "extraordinary" precision. Same with the widespread
use of E=mc^2.
 
It is much correct in what you say.
BUT:
The equation
   E = ∝ m
say there is some kind of equivalence between mass and energy,
and that mass can be converted to energy and vice versa.
This can only be empirically tested.
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It is not a claim which can be proven true by circular reasoning.
The famous pion decay into two photons prove that mass can
indeed be converted to energy (kinetic energy of mass-less particles).
In SI units the equation in the rest frame of the pion becomes:
  mc² = 2 h/f
where m is the mass of the pion in kg, c is the speed of light in m/s
h = 6.62607015e–34 kg⋅m²/s, f = the frequency 1/c
SI definition of 1 kg = (h/6.62607015e–34) s/m²
So we have  kg⋅m²/s² on both sides
If it is true that mass can be converted energy,
then the Equation E = mc² is true by definition!
But c² is only a proportionality coefficient necessary
to balance the units in the SI system.
It is quite common to use eVolts as unit for both mass and energy.
E = m
But remember, the equivalency is empirically shown to be true.
--
Paul
https://paulba.no/

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