Re: [SR] Usefulness of real velocities in accelerated relativistic frames of reference.

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Sujet : Re: [SR] Usefulness of real velocities in accelerated relativistic frames of reference.
De : r.hachel (at) *nospam* tiscali.fr (Richard Hachel)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 14. Mar 2024, 02:57:38
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Le 13/03/2024 à 21:59, "Paul B. Andersen" a écrit :
Den 12.03.2024 20:42, skrev Richard Hachel:

So  Vrm=(1/2)Vri
 That is what I am saying.
 Yes. And I agree.
 NOTE THIS:
  If the object is instantly at rest at t = 0, and
  the coordinate acceleration in the inertial frame is constant a,
  Then the speed Vri(t) = at
 
 Vr=a.Tr
 Where Vr (Vri(t)) is the speed in the inertial frame,
and Tr (t) is the time coordinate in the inertial frame, and
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a is the constant coordinate acceleration in the inertial frame!
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 The consequence of this is that when t > c/a  v > c
which is impossible in SR.
 That means that the coordinate acceleration a can't be constant!
In the rocket frame, a is constant.
Always.
a=10m/s² (a=1.052ly/y²)
The rocket is at rest in its frame of reference, and the speed Vr of the surrounding space becomes Vr=a.Tr
There is no problem, the speed of the rocket, that is to say the real speed of movement of the terrestrial frame of reference, is indeed Vr.
But you know the conversion equation that I gave forty years ago: Vo=Vr/sqrt(1+Vr²/c²)
Everything is remarkably clear and of great theoretical beauty if you understand what I am saying.
R.H.
Date Sujet#  Auteur
12 Mar 24 * [SR] Usefulness of real velocities in accelerated relativistic frames of reference.65Richard Hachel
12 Mar 24 `* Re: [SR] Usefulness of real velocities in accelerated relativistic frames of reference.64Paul B. Andersen
12 Mar 24  +- Re: [SR] Usefulness of real velocities in accelerated relativistic frames of reference.1Richard Hachel
12 Mar 24  +- Re: [SR] Usefulness of real velocities in accelerated relativistic frames of reference.1Richard Hachel
13 Mar 24  +- Re: [SR] Usefulness of real velocities in accelerated relativistic frames of reference.1Maciej Wozniak
13 Mar 24  `* Re: [SR] Usefulness of real velocities in accelerated relativistic frames of reference.60Paul B. Andersen
13 Mar 24   +- Re: [SR] Usefulness of real velocities in accelerated relativistic frames of reference.1Ross Finlayson
14 Mar 24   +- Re: [SR] Usefulness of real velocities in accelerated relativistic frames of reference.1Richard Hachel
14 Mar 24   +- Re: [SR] Usefulness of real velocities in accelerated relativistic frames of reference.1Richard Hachel
14 Mar 24   +* Re: [SR] Usefulness of real velocities in accelerated relativistic frames of reference.54Richard Hachel
14 Mar 24   i`* Re: [SR] Usefulness of real velocities in accelerated relativistic frames of reference.53Paul B. Andersen
14 Mar 24   i +* Re: [SR] Usefulness of real velocities in accelerated relativistic frames of reference.4Richard Hachel
14 Mar 24   i i+- Re: [SR] Usefulness of real velocities in accelerated relativistic frames of reference.1Guzman Velazquez
14 Mar 24   i i+- Re: [SR] Usefulness of real velocities in accelerated relativistic frames of reference.1Maciej Wozniak
15 Mar 24   i i`- Re: [SR] Usefulness of real velocities in accelerated relativistic frames of reference.1Paul B. Andersen
14 Mar 24   i +* Re: [SR] Usefulness of real velocities in accelerated relativistic frames of reference.14Richard Hachel
14 Mar 24   i i+- Re: [SR] Usefulness of real velocities in accelerated relativistic frames of reference.1Bosephis Provenza Sciacca
15 Mar 24   i i`* Re: [SR] Usefulness of real velocities in accelerated relativistic frames of reference.12Paul B. Andersen
15 Mar 24   i i +* Re: [SR] Usefulness of real velocities in accelerated relativistic frames of reference.3Richard Hachel
16 Mar 24   i i i`* Re: [SR] Usefulness of real velocities in accelerated relativistic frames of reference.2Paul B. Andersen
16 Mar 24   i i i `- Re: [SR] Usefulness of real velocities in accelerated relativistic frames of reference.1Richard Hachel
15 Mar 24   i i `* Re: [SR] Usefulness of real velocities in accelerated relativistic frames of reference.8Richard Hachel
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16 Mar 24   i i  i`- Re: [SR] Usefulness of real velocities in accelerated relativistic frames of reference.1Richard Hachel
16 Mar 24   i i  `* Re: [SR] Usefulness of real velocities in accelerated relativistic frames of reference.5Paul B. Andersen
16 Mar 24   i i   +* Re: [SR] Usefulness of real velocities in accelerated relativistic frames of reference.3Richard Hachel
17 Mar 24   i i   i`* Re: [SR] Usefulness of real velocities in accelerated relativistic frames of reference.2Paul B. Andersen
18 Mar 24   i i   i `- Re: [SR] Usefulness of real velocities in accelerated relativistic frames of reference.1Richard Hachel
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15 Mar 24   i   +* Re: [SR] Usefulness of real velocities in accelerated relativistic frames of reference.30Richard Hachel
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18 Mar 24   i   i i `* Re: [SR] Usefulness of real velocities in accelerated relativistic frames of reference.13Richard Hachel
18 Mar 24   i   i i  `* Re: [SR] Usefulness of real velocities in accelerated relativistic frames of reference.12Paul B. Andersen
19 Mar 24   i   i i   +* Re: [SR] Usefulness of real velocities in accelerated relativistic frames of reference.4Richard Hachel
19 Mar 24   i   i i   i`* Re: [SR] Usefulness of real velocities in accelerated relativistic frames of reference.3Paul B. Andersen
19 Mar 24   i   i i   i `* Re: [SR] Usefulness of real velocities in accelerated relativistic frames of reference.2Richard Hachel
20 Mar 24   i   i i   i  `- Re: [SR] Usefulness of real velocities in accelerated relativistic frames of reference.1Paul B. Andersen
19 Mar 24   i   i i   `* Re: [SR] Usefulness of real velocities in accelerated relativistic frames of reference.7Richard Hachel
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19 Mar 24   i   i i     +* Re: [SR] Usefulness of real velocities in accelerated relativistic frames of reference.2Richard Hachel
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18 Mar 24   i   i  i+* Re: [SR] Usefulness of real velocities in accelerated relativistic frames of reference.2Richard Hachel
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