Re: The most ridiculous science mistake in history.

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Date : 26. Mar 2024, 17:16:23
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On 3/25/2024 11:28 AM, Aether Regained wrote:
J. J. Lodder:> LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:
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It is the most ridiculous scientific mistake in history.
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Einstein took the null result of MMX to disprove the ether.
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Wrong, both historicaly and factualy.
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The Lorentz Transformation would make it possible to keep the ether.
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Einstein kept the LT and discarded the ether.
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Wrong. Einstein (and Lorentz with him)
saw that the aether has no observable properties.
Lorentz had already seen that to order (v/c)^2,
and after Einstein 1905 he saw
that there are no observable effects of an aether to all orders of v/c.
In the LET, the aether is undetectable.
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 There are no observable effects of an aether? What then are the
electromagnetic and gravitational fields, if not observable effects of
an aether?
Free space can propagate certain fields such as electromagnetism, with associated constants such as ε₀ and μ₀. The old fashioned luminiferous aether had mechanical properties to propagate light as if it were like sound. Free space properties are not mechanical, and if you want, you could call the ability to propagate electromagnetic fields an aether, but this leads to confusion with the obsolete aether of the 1800s. Einstein explicitly stated that aether had no mechanical properties, so velocity relative to the aether is meaningless. "But this ether may not be thought of as endowed with the quality characteristic of ponderable media, as consisting of parts which may be tracked through time. The idea of motion may not be applied to it."

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