Re: Perfect clocks

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Sujet : Re: Perfect clocks
De : ross.a.finlayson (at) *nospam* gmail.com (Ross Finlayson)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 27. Apr 2024, 21:13:27
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On 04/27/2024 12:50 PM, gharnagel wrote:
J. J. Lodder wrote:
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Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
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W dniu 26.04.2024 o 21:09, J. J. Lodder pisze:
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Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
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More stable, more independent on the environment
and its fancies a device is - better it is.
Perfect clocks would ignore the nature completely.
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A very strange assertion since clocks are supposed to
measure something that is at the very basis of reality.
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Au contraire, perfect clocks are perfect nature,
What is "perfect nature", Lod?
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There is only one 'Nature',
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Jan
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Perhaps there is only one nature, but it has many parts.
The discussion seems to be about the part of nature called
"time" ... but what is "time"?  Does it have one, or more,
parts?  What is "now"?  Clocks are supposed to model time,
so what what do we assume "time" is?
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At present, we assume the duration of a second of time is
described by 9,192, 631,770 cycles of the standard Cs-133
hyper-fine transition.  Since that's a part of nature, Woz's
assertion makes no sense.  OTOH, do we count anything built
by humans as a part of nature, too?
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That fact appears to be that there is "something" that rules
the passage of time, but we have no clue as to what that is.
One guy with whom I had a discussion about that:  it's a
quantum action effect.  Maybe we'll find it someday, 'way
down there at the Planck time level?  Could be, I dunno.
Time is usually considered a continuous quantity.
I hope that people who study quantum mechanics understand
that:
superstrings are as smaller than atoms as atoms than us,
that Planck length and Angstrom's are about either side atoms,
that Technicolour is a theory that it's quarks all the way down,
that the fundamental physical constants of atomic quantities get smaller
measure over time in energy of experiment, called "running constants",
that GR is in front of SR not the other way around,
that particle mechanics or electron physics is sort of
a conceit whether they even exist,
that particle/wave duality is a sort of wave-particle/wave-resonance
dichotomy,
that in mathematics there are at least three different definitions of
continuity,
that measure theory for the measure problem indicates the real character
of real analysis the integral calculus,
that time is a continuous quantity,
and, in physics,
it's open and it's closed,
it's flat and it's curved,
the cosmological constant is vanishing yet non-zero,
and time symmetry has never been falsified.

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