Re: Paper Series: Shift-symmetry in Einstein’s Universe

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Sujet : Re: Paper Series: Shift-symmetry in Einstein’s Universe
De : ross.a.finlayson (at) *nospam* gmail.com (Ross Finlayson)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 11. Jul 2024, 20:35:05
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On 07/11/2024 06:33 AM, gharnagel wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jul 2024 7:53:05 +0000, Mikko wrote:
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Perfect conservation of energy is not essential to relativity. However,
relativity requires that if energy or momentum is conserved then both
are.
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Our universe seems quite rigid about conservation of both.
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The time direction symmetry is not an essential part of relativity.
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Our universe seems quite rigid about that, too.
This is kind of interesting, I suppose that's un-usual.
Time symmetry has never been falsified.
Einstein: in "Out of My Later Years", sort of his final
word on the matter, puts SR aside as "local" and has that
there's a different "spacial" for the light-like while
the space and spatial itself is defined by GR and the kinetic.
Kind of like Kelvin said with regards to thermo second law,
"I suppose it's all kinetic".
Then, Einstein has his second mass-energy formula,
not quite as well known as the first term of the
Taylor series for K.E. the usual e = mc^2, that
the m'/m = e/c^2, helps effect to reflect that
the Galilean the linear, can be separated from
the Lorentzian the rotational, while still being
Lorentzian, insofar as the space goes along
with the frame, in frame-spaces and space-frames,
with space-contraction, sort of putting FitzGerald
back in the picture with Lorentz, and then putting
Fatio and LeSage back in the picture with Newton.
Some people even think that the gravitational equivalence
principle that gravity and acceleration are same is not
so, because, it's just terrestrial in the frame dragging.
No, not everybody has "SR first". It's like "close your
eyes, do you yet move". Si eppi muove.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
11 Jul 24 * Paper Series: Shift-symmetry in Einstein’s Universe24Eric_Baird
11 Jul 24 +* Re: Paper Series: Shift-symmetry in Einstein’s Universe22Mikko
11 Jul 24 i`* Re: Paper Series: Shift-symmetry in Einstein’s Universe21gharnagel
11 Jul 24 i +* Re: Paper Series: Shift-symmetry in Einstein’s Universe5gharnagel
11 Jul 24 i i`* Re: Paper Series: Shift-symmetry in Einstein’s Universe4Maciej Wozniak
11 Jul 24 i i `* Re: Paper Series: Shift-symmetry in Einstein’s Universe3gharnagel
12 Jul 24 i i  `* Re: Paper Series: Shift-symmetry in Einstein’s Universe2gharnagel
12 Jul 24 i i   `- Re: Paper Series: Shift-symmetry in Einstein’s Universe1Maciej Wozniak
11 Jul 24 i +* Re: Paper Series: Shift-symmetry in Einstein’s Universe10Ross Finlayson
11 Jul 24 i i+- Re: Paper Series: Shift-symmetry in Einstein’s Universe1Mantra Bajukov Chao
13 Jul 24 i i`* Re: Paper Series: Shift-symmetry in Einstein’s Universe8Ross Finlayson
14 Jul 24 i i `* Re: Paper Series: Shift-symmetry in Einstein’s Universe7gharnagel
14 Jul 24 i i  +- Re: Paper Series: Shift-symmetry in Einstein’s Universe1Ross Finlayson
14 Jul 24 i i  +- Re: Paper Series: Shift-symmetry in Einstein’s Universe1Sigfredo Mészáros
14 Jul 24 i i  `* Re: Paper Series: Shift-symmetry in Einstein’s Universe4Richard Hachel
14 Jul 24 i i   `* Re: Paper Series: Shift-symmetry in Einstein’s Universe3gharnagel
14 Jul 24 i i    `* Re: Paper Series: Shift-symmetry in Einstein’s Universe2Ross Finlayson
15 Jul 24 i i     `- Re: Paper Series: Shift-symmetry in Einstein’s Universe1gharnagel
12 Jul 24 i `* Re: Paper Series: Shift-symmetry in Einstein’s Universe5Mikko
13 Jul 24 i  `* Re: Paper Series: Shift-symmetry in Einstein’s Universe4gharnagel
13 Jul 24 i   +- Re: Paper Series: Shift-symmetry in Einstein’s Universe1Maciej Wozniak
14 Jul 24 i   +- Re: Paper Series: Shift-symmetry in Einstein’s Universe1Jermaine Grammatakakis
14 Jul 24 i   `- Re: Paper Series: Shift-symmetry in Einstein’s Universe1Jonhantan Escamilla
12 Jul 24 `- Re: Paper Series: Shift-symmetry in Einstein’s Universe1Eric_Baird

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