Re: Langevin's paradox again

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Sujet : Re: Langevin's paradox again
De : mlwozniak (at) *nospam* wp.pl (Maciej Wozniak)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 17. Jul 2024, 06:16:17
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W dniu 17.07.2024 o 01:41, Python pisze:
Le 17/07/2024 à 00:44, Richard Hachel a écrit :
Le 16/07/2024 à 23:07, Python a écrit :
Le 16/07/2024 à 20:33, Paul.B.Andersen a écrit :
>
Den 16.07.2024 15:25, skrev Richard Hachel:
...
>
 > Where they will no longer be is when it is necessary to calculate Stella's own time (now Bella).
 >
 > The fact that Bella accelerates from rest in Stella's frame of reference allows us to say:
 > “If the paths are equal, and the observable times equal, then the proper times will be equal”
...
>
So "the travelling twin" ages less than the "stay at home twin".
>
The ageing of the twins in the "twin paradox" is experimentally verified to be as predicted by SR.
>
Your theory is falsified.
>
I tried, in vain, to explain to Richard how his claim : “If the paths
are equal, and the observable times equal, then the proper times will be
equal” is asinine :
>
1. Given two distincts trajectories, "equal paths" is a frame dependent
    property it CANNOT implies something which is NOT frame-dependant
    (equality of proper times)
2. "observable times equal" expresses nothing more than the equality of
    difference of time between two events with... itself
>
Out of Galilean Relativity, where proper times are always equal (and
then the whole claim is void), this is logically impossible.
>
>
My dear Jean-Pierre,
[snip whining]
 Nothing but "I'm right, because I am right, and I am always right", no
address of the issues I pointed out. As usual...
Usual approach of both physicists and wannabe physicists.
At least no insults and slanders, more typical for
the mainstream of your moronic church.

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