Re: "Time" vs "physical time"

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Sujet : Re: "Time" vs "physical time"
De : r.hachel (at) *nospam* wanadou.fr (Richard Hachel)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 06. Aug 2024, 10:15:14
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Le 06/08/2024 à 10:02, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
When a real person in the real world
says "time" - he/she doesn't refer
to your mystical crap at all. The
word usually means one of zone times
or UTC; TAI is referred rarely, but it
is still important. NONE of them is
observer dependent.
 That's why The Shit is opposed so
fiercely by "laymen". Whet they
refer as "time" simply doesn't
have those absurd properties invented
by your idiot guru for pseudotime he
liked.
I don't understand what you're saying.
Of course, solar time depends on the person's location
on the globe, and on a solar clock, it's not the same time in Paris and in Amsterdam.
But where I think you're making a mistake is when you think that we can adjust this with a universal clock, independent of the sun, and which would give a universal time.
This conception is false, and any clock can only give a local time.
If I take even Romeo and Juliet, sitting on two different benches, in the same schoolyard. They look at each other, they make little signs to each other. Suddenly Romeo sends a little beep on Juliet's cell phone.
Human thought is formatted in such a way that the moment when Romeo beeps is the same for both speakers, that is to say that this moment is in a sort of "universal present", a "plan of universal present time".
This vision of the world is completely false.
But the prejudice is so ingrained that anyone who says otherwise will be massacred by the tribe of monkeys that constitute humanity, and who are incapable of peeing without disgorging the toilet bowl.
R.H.
Date Sujet#  Auteur
6 Aug 24 * "Time" vs "physical time"43Maciej Wozniak
6 Aug 24 +* Re: "Time" vs "physical time"30Richard Hachel
6 Aug 24 i+* Re: "Time" vs "physical time"2Python
6 Aug 24 ii`- Re: "Time" vs "physical time"1Maciej Wozniak
8 Aug 24 i+* Re: "Time" vs "physical time"2Thomas Heger
9 Aug 24 ii`- Re: "Time" vs "physical time"1Thomas Heger
8 Aug 24 i`* Re: "Time" vs "physical time"25Paul.B.Andersen
8 Aug 24 i +* Re: "Time" vs "physical time"18Richard Hachel
8 Aug 24 i i+* Re: "Time" vs "physical time"10J. J. Lodder
8 Aug 24 i ii`* Re: "Time" vs "physical time"9Richard Hachel
8 Aug 24 i ii `* Re: "Time" vs "physical time"8J. J. Lodder
8 Aug 24 i ii  +* Re: "Time" vs "physical time"6Richard Hachel
8 Aug 24 i ii  i`* Re: "Time" vs "physical time"5J. J. Lodder
9 Aug 24 i ii  i `* Re: "Time" vs "physical time"4Richard Hachel
9 Aug 24 i ii  i  `* Re: "Time" vs "physical time"3Baldomero Catalano
9 Aug 24 i ii  i   `* Re: "Time" vs "physical time"2Athel Cornish-Bowden
9 Aug 24 i ii  i    `- Re: "Time" vs "physical time"1Francisco Basurto
9 Aug 24 i ii  `- Re: "Time" vs "physical time"1Athel Cornish-Bowden
10 Aug 24 i i`* Re: "Time" vs "physical time"7Paul.B.Andersen
10 Aug 24 i i +- Re: "Time" vs "physical time"1Richard Hachel
10 Aug 24 i i `* Re: "Time" vs "physical time"5Richard Hachel
11 Aug 24 i i  `* Re: "Time" vs "physical time"4Paul.B.Andersen
11 Aug 24 i i   +- Re: "Time" vs "physical time"1Athel Cornish-Bowden
11 Aug 24 i i   `* Re: "Time" vs "physical time"2Richard Hachel
12 Aug 24 i i    `- Re: "Time" vs "physical time"1Paul.B.Andersen
8 Aug 24 i +* Re: "Time" vs "physical time"2Maciej Wozniak
8 Aug 24 i i`- Re: "Time" vs "physical time"1Richard Hachel
8 Aug 24 i `* Re: "Time" vs "physical time"4Roscoe Baklykov
9 Aug 24 i  `* Re: "Time" vs "physical time"3Athel Cornish-Bowden
9 Aug 24 i   `* Re: "Time" vs "physical time"2Python
9 Aug 24 i    `- Re: "Time" vs "physical time"1Satrnino Robustelli
6 Aug 24 `* Re: "Time" vs "physical time"12Python
6 Aug 24  `* Re: "Time" vs "physical time"11Maciej Wozniak
6 Aug 24   `* Re: "Time" vs "physical time"10Python
6 Aug 24    `* Re: "Time" vs "physical time"9Maciej Wozniak
6 Aug 24     +- Re: "Time" vs "physical time"1Python
6 Aug 24     `* Re: "Time" vs "physical time"7Python
6 Aug 24      `* Re: "Time" vs "physical time"6gharnagel
6 Aug 24       `* Re: "Time" vs "physical time"5Maciej Wozniak
6 Aug 24        +- Re: "Time" vs "physical time"1Richard Hachel
6 Aug 24        `* Re: "Time" vs "physical time"3gharnagel
6 Aug 24         +- Re: "Time" vs "physical time"1Maciej Wozniak
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