Re: the notion of counter-intuitiveness in relativistic physics

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Sujet : Re: the notion of counter-intuitiveness in relativistic physics
De : nospam (at) *nospam* de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 07. Aug 2024, 21:22:54
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Richard Hachel <r.hachel@jesauspu.fr> wrote:

Le 07/08/2024 à 16:47, Python a écrit :
Le 07/08/2024 à 16:44, M.D. Richard "Hachel" Lengrand a écrit :
[snip nonsense]
When Römer observes the moons of Jupiter, his measurements are correct:
 
This is the first of ten "lame physics things" addressed here by the
brilliant Angela Collier:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-d4ujp_DgY
 
[snip more nonsense]
 
Quand Römer (ce n'est pas de sa faute, je pense que tout le monde aurait
réagi comme lui, y compris ma grandeur céleste) a constaté un truc
bizarre (les lunes de Jupiter tournent plus vite quand on s'approche et
moins vite quand on s'éloigne), il a tout de suite pensé à un effet
Doppler dû à la vitesse de la lumière.

It is just a light travel time effect.
(which you may call Doppler, if you wish)

Cette proposition intéressante, mais fausse, a complètement fait dévier
le courant de la pensée humaine.
 
Römer n'a pas compris que c'était là la découverte du premier effet
relativiste : il a pensé à un simple Doppler traditionnel : un peu comme
la transmission du son dans l'air.

Relativity has nothing to do with it.
As a matter of fact Newton's absolute time idea
is perfectly adequate to analyse all of Roemer,

Jan


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