Re: the notion of counter-intuitiveness in relativistic physics

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Sujet : Re: the notion of counter-intuitiveness in relativistic physics
De : hitlong (at) *nospam* yahoo.com (gharnagel)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 11. Aug 2024, 00:33:21
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On Sat, 10 Aug 2024 23:10:57 +0000, Richard Hachel wrote:
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Le 10/08/2024 à 23:32, hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) a écrit :
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Richard Hachel wrote:
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It is realized universally every day.
This horse in this meadow, this moon in the sky, this galaxy in this
telescope, I perceive them because, precisely, it is about
instantaneous
transmission of information.
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Doesn't happen.  Ever.  There's always time delay due to speed of
light.
Telescopes look into the past of what they see.  And the moon you see
is
more than a second old.  Even the horse is older.
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This is what we call direct-live.
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I beg you to stop being an idiot and writing nonsense.
You seem to be projecting, Richard.

This forum is already rotten with guys who come to talk to us about
Ukraine, Trump, and other off-topic stuff in relativity,
if in addition, one of the celestial lights of relativity (me) is
criticized badly, we will not get out of it.
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I repeat:
"This horse in this meadow, this moon in this sky, this galaxy in this
telescope, are given to me live, without an intermediary, and by
instantaneous transfer of information".
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The answers I get, which are like: "the speed of light means that we
cannot observe things instantly, and even some stars may be dead today"
are particularly stupid.
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They show the collective decay of current physics.
Nope. "direct-live" represents a specific decay of this group.

One day, we will laugh at such answers because science will progress.
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But today, I am saddened by it.
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R.H.
Be saddened all you want, but it will degrade science until you bring
your ideas in congruency with reality.

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