Re: [SR and synchronization] Cognitive Dissonances and Mental Blockage

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Sujet : Re: [SR and synchronization] Cognitive Dissonances and Mental Blockage
De : python (at) *nospam* invalid.org (Python)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 25. Aug 2024, 08:48:31
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Le 25/08/2024 à 09:30, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
W dniu 25.08.2024 o 09:21, Python pisze:
Le 24/08/2024 à 08:40, Thomas Heger a écrit :
Am Freitag000023, 23.08.2024 um 08:27 schrieb Thomas Heger:
Am Donnerstag000022, 22.08.2024 um 13:06 schrieb Python:
Le 22/08/2024 à 08:51, Thomas Heger a écrit :
Am Mittwoch000021, 21.08.2024 um 09:31 schrieb Python:
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Addendum : "the distance from A to B is x": this is wrong too.
x is the coordinate of an event in system K, it is not, in
general, the distance between origins of K and k.
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'x' is a generic coordinate in system K and means a distance from the center of K to a point on the x-axis.
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Since system k was placed with its center upon the x-axis and B in the center of k, the distance from A to B would actually be x.
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Systems k and K are not even mentioned in part I.2. So "system k was
placed with its center upon the x-axis and B in the center of k"
is a figment of your imagination in no way related to A.E. article.
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Wrong, because definitions remain valid throughout the entire paper, unless stated otherwise.
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Part I.1 is in no way supposed to refer to definitions stated in
part I.3.
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Sure, but fortunately I have not written anything like this.
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I wrote, that defintions for §1.1 remain valind in §1.3, unless the author states otherwise.
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If an author defines some variable or other setting and later 'foregets' this definition, all older settings remain valid.
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And definitely NOT a definition of k/K that is stated LATER, moreover
neither K nor k are mentions in part I.1.
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Sure, but apparently you wanted to discuss a certain equation form part 1.3 on page 3.
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That was LATER than the introduction of K and k.
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SORRY!
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This was wrong.
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Me culpa!
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page 3 belongs to §1.1. and not to § 1.3.
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§ 1.1 had not used two different coordinate systems in relative motion. Those were intruduced in the next chapter § 1.2.
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(Sorry, but I make errors, too.)
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Good to hear. Now you may consider that you've made a LOT of errors.
Including below:
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In § 1.1. we have a different setting:
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assumed is a single coordinate system, where Newton's equations are valid and an euclidan space, in which that coordinate system is stationary.
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This setting is slightly different to the ones in the subsequent chapters.
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This setting is what allows to make sense of sytems k, K, etc. later.
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In fact Einstein assumed here some forcefree 'flat' Euclidean space, in which one single coordinate system would be considered.
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This setting is more or less motionless, hence different to the setting in the following chapters.
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Nothing prevent considering several coordinate systems of the same kind,
in relative motion wrt each others. This is actually what he's doing
there.
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I personally had sorted the mentioned variables in a certain way, which was actually different than Einstein's.
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Again adding stuff that is asinine and unrelated to what Einstein
actually wrote?
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For me such a single coordinate system in a forcefree euclidean space would allow only one single time measure, which is valid troughout this entire coordinate system.
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This is basically ok.
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Clocks could not be synchronised by light signals, however, because light needs time to travel.
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Einstein (following Poincaré's work) showed
 Whatever you say - Poincare had enough wit
to [idiotic whining]
Whatever (yawn)...
I've just receive this book by the post:
Einstein's clocks and Poincaré's maps
by Peter Galison
https://archive.org/details/einsteinsclocksp00gali

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