Re: Strange relativistic silence

On 09/08/2024 05:53 AM, Richard Hachel wrote:

Le 08/09/2024 à 12:52, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :

W dniu 08.09.2024 o 11:04, Mikko pisze:
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Everything is poorly understood by someone.
Relativity is very well understood by some people. Most of them
do not participate in usenet discussions.

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Sure, sure. Some divine creatures nobody
has ever seen. Just nobody here.
And still, the mumble of the idiot was not
even consistent.

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I think that it is partly out of fear (but repressed fear) that most
theorists do not come to discuss, or run away quickly.
There are still a few who still love research, and who sincerely like to
understand, for the beauty of the thing, and not to show off like "Oh
yes, but me, I wrote a pdf, I got a Nobel, I wrote a book that sold very
well".
Their reaction is often very violent if we contradict them "You are
ignorant, you are a crank, I will shoot you".
There is therefore a real problem with relativist theorists, a real
problem of religious fanaticism.
The devil never gives credit, their ideology is as ridiculous as Islamic
ideology, and can always only lead them, in the end, to disillusionment,
hatred, and violence.
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This is obviously completely abnormal, and in decades of internet
observations, I have never seen such a phenomenon.
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Except perhaps a few forums of religious fanatics.
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There is nothing to be happy about in this rotten atmosphere where the
adversary is systematically the "crank". Even John Baez fell into this
trap of hatred and madness.
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R.H.

The role of "foundations", logical foundations, mathematical
foundations, physical foundations, a technical philoshopy,
"foundations", is to encompass the notion of a universal
(or, void) theory and what results a "theory of anything"
any "theory of everything".
Pointing to d'Espagnat's Philosophy and Physics, helps to
relay that the realist and objective position, while so
removed from axiomatics and the instrumentalist and anti-realist,
yet has that there remains a "Silver Thread" from the usual
course of res and ratio, reason and rationality, vis-a-vis,
verum and certum, returning to a "theory of truth", tempered
by the mental development in maturation of scientisms, logical
positivism, and nominalism, fictionalism, fallibilism, and
anti-realism, toward what may result again a "the theory".
That it entails the understanding/intelligence and knowledge/science
of a super-classical mathematics, then physics, is that continuum
mechanics is what it is, and that it's well-understood that while
the models of GR and QM are of great success as may be considered
with the atomic and digital age, that the information age need
not result a regression to fragments of meaning, instead toward
a fuller, holistic inter-objectivity, for realists, and with
regards to super-classical, extra-standard objective realists.