Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.

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Sujet : Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.
De : hitlong (at) *nospam* yahoo.com (gharnagel)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 09. Sep 2024, 14:56:28
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On Sun, 8 Sep 2024 5:28:31 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
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W dniu 08.09.2024 o 00:17, gharnagel pisze:
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On Sat, 7 Sep 2024 12:58:55 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
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W dniu 07.09.2024 o 14:22, gharnagel pisze:
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But you don't have a GPS clock on your wall
and your cousin has it neither.
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Wozniak is the real liar here.  He hasn't defined
what he's talking about when he wites "GPS clock"
so I take that to mean a wall clock synchronized
with a GPS station
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And neither your clock nor your cousin's clock
are. UT1 transmitted by WWVB is different than
GPS time,
They are synchronized with GPS.  Wozniak is
waffling now about what he means by "GPS time"

and your clocks don't indicate UT1
anyway
Waffling Wozniak never mentioned UTI previously.
He's making excuses for his ambiguous assertions
and trying to blame me for it.

- they indicate local zone times.
Exactly what I said:
"Wow! I make a simple, very likely claim and Wily Wozniak
immediately asserts that I'm lying.  Maybe GPS wall
clocks are rare in Poland, but I have two of them in my
home and my cousin has at least one.  And his reads one
hour ahead of mine because he's in a different time zone.
Apparently, Weak-minded Wozniak doesn't understand how
time works in practice, or Wily Wozniak just lies all
the time because he's a congenital liar, or a pathological
liar, or both."

You both have clocks of one of zone times,
seems you have clock of one zone time and
your cousin has a clock of another zone
time.  And as they refer to 2 different
times they may have different indications -
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Now Wozniak FINALLY gets it.  He claimed:
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"When one [GPS] clock's indication is
'2024-09-06 17:00:00.0000000' - you may
be practically sure that all the others
WILL INDICATE THE SAME, with the precision
of an acceptable error."
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which is not true.
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Yes, it is. You don't know what a
clock is, what a GPS clock is, what
times we have and the differences
are, nothing.
"We"?  Since Wozniak is insanely rejecting
clocks synchronized to the GPS as "GPS
clocks" then he is admitting that he doesn't
have one, either.  This is proof that his
whole argument is baloney.  He has no way
of knowing "GPS time."

You're just a stubborn
One must be stubborn when dealing with an
obstinate liar who routinely insults and
slanders.

DK idiot believing that following
an insane crazie and his mad religion
can substitute any knowledge.
Wozniak is projecting his own insanity
and incompetence on honest and competent
scientists by this deranged diatribe.

while all zone times are still galilean.
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But the time zones are NOT "galilean."
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Time zones don't have to - they're
geographical regions having nothing
to do with being galilean or not.
Wozniak is the one who brought up the
subject of "Galilean" but now he's trying
to backtrack because he's been hoisted on
his own petard.
"Never put both feet in your mouth at the
same time, because then you won't have a
leg to stand on." -- Anon.
He is too arrogant to admit that he could
possibly make a mistake, not man enough
to own up to his own foibles.
The fact is, that t' = t everywhere in
Galilean relativity, which was the way a
dishonest Wozniak would have answered my
claim if he doesn't always feel so
threatened bu cogent argument.
Of course, he would have exposed himself
to the fact that Galilean relativity has
been soundly refuted by honest, competent
scientists:
https://www.nist.gov/news-events/news/2010/09/nist-pair-aluminum-atomic-clocks-reveal-einsteins-relativity-personal-scale
which I posted previously but Wozniak
dishonestly deleted because it blew up
his demented agenda like the house of
cards that it is.

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12 Sep 24                      `* Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.8gharnagel
12 Sep 24                       `* Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.7Maciej Wozniak
13 Sep 24                        `* Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.6gharnagel
13 Sep 24                         `* Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.5Maciej Wozniak
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