Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,

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De : ross.a.finlayson (at) *nospam* gmail.com (Ross Finlayson)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 14. Sep 2024, 22:29:07
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On 09/14/2024 01:18 PM, rhertz wrote:
They deal with this aspect, after decades of thinking about mass
increasing with speed, in this way:
>
1. Relativist gave up, most of them in the last 25 years, the idea of
mass being a function of speed v. They now considered (most ones) that
MASS IS INVARIANT.
>
2. They transferred the gain in KE to a pure energy gained by the
accelerated particle. So, the energy gain is STORED into the air,
because mass is not affected. M = Mo, whichever v is.
>
The solution is to accept widely that the KE of a moving particle is KE
= (Y-1)Moc^2. where Mo is the mass at rest.
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Of course, don't try to question this formula and ask WHERE the extra KE
is stored
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There is no difference of this formula with the Newtonian KE = 1/2 Mv^2,
except that the extra KE is stored in the ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELD, given
by (Y-1)c^2 instead of 1/2v^2.
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Mysteries of relativity (pseudoscience).
>
Don't forget that the above is calculated only for CHARGED PARTICLES,
but the influence of electromagnetism is WIDELY IGNORED. Prove that with
a grain of sand or a neutron.
The idea that solar sails have a principle of operation includes
both notions of solar flux after stellar pulsation, and as well
as what sort of results from Casimir, where Casimir force, and
Casimir effect, is cataloged under effects and forces when
they're "fictitious", in a world of "hidden" variables, what
as well are as simply complementary and supplementary in the
wider dialectic, vis-a-vis the ultraviolet catastrophe,
electron physics, and ignorance about notions like
the "second spectrum" of light and these kinds of things.
In 1846 Faraday announced new principles and effects about daily.
Many of these of course still exist as "empirical" or outside
the model of "most severe abstraction".

Date Sujet#  Auteur
14 Sep 24 * In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,27rhertz
14 Sep 24 +* Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,6LaurenceClarkCrossen
14 Sep 24 i`* Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,5rhertz
14 Sep 24 i +- Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,1Ross Finlayson
14 Sep 24 i +* Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,2Richard Hachel
14 Sep 24 i i`- Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,1Ross Finlayson
15 Sep 24 i `- Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,1Thomas Heger
14 Sep 24 +* Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,11Paul.B.Andersen
14 Sep 24 i+- Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,1Paul.B.Andersen
15 Sep 24 i`* Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,9rhertz
15 Sep 24 i +* Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,7rhertz
15 Sep 24 i i`* Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,6Ross Finlayson
15 Sep 24 i i `* Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,5rhertz
15 Sep 24 i i  `* Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,4LaurenceClarkCrossen
15 Sep 24 i i   `* Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,3Ross Finlayson
15 Sep 24 i i    `* Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,2Ross Finlayson
15 Sep 24 i i     `- Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,1Ross Finlayson
15 Sep 24 i `- Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,1Paul.B.Andersen
16 Sep 24 `* Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,9Mikko
16 Sep 24  `* Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,8rhertz
16 Sep 24   +* Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,5Paul.B.Andersen
16 Sep 24   i+- Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,1Maciej Wozniak
16 Sep 24   i`* Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,3rhertz
17 Sep 24   i `* Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,2Paul.B.Andersen
17 Sep 24   i  `- Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,1LaurenceClarkCrossen
17 Sep 24   +- Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,1Mikko
17 Sep 24   `- Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,1Mikko

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