Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,

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Sujet : Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,
De : ttt_heg (at) *nospam* web.de (Thomas Heger)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 15. Sep 2024, 06:58:38
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Am Samstag000014, 14.09.2024 um 22:18 schrieb rhertz:
They deal with this aspect, after decades of thinking about mass
increasing with speed, in this way:
 1. Relativist gave up, most of them in the last 25 years, the idea of
mass being a function of speed v. They now considered (most ones) that
MASS IS INVARIANT.
Both is wrong!
SRT is based on speed, but the 'background' of SRT is a dark and force-free void, where the term 'speed' makes no sense.
But SRT isn't entirely wrong.
The question is not velocity, but the orientation of the axis of time!
Time is a local parameter, hence only a single axis of time exists in a certain environment.
This 'axis of time' is actually imaginary, because time is orthogonal to all the axes of space.
This means:
x= i*c*t
Now we could take a subset of spacetime and use only x and t.
Then t points upwards and x to the right.
This is actually, how we draw a complex 'Argand-diagramm'.
The axis of time is then the imaginary axis and the spacelike axis x the real axis.
Now we could do an unsusual trick and rotate the picture and make the axis of time point into another direction.
This would make the former space shrink andlet a new space emerge, because the axes of space need to be perpendicular to the axis of time.
This new space is also filled with new matter, which pops out of nowhere (suposed we could enter such a new space).
The latter statement is now the reason, why I think, that mass is not conserved.
TH
(see my 'book' about this concept:
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Ur3_giuk2l439fxUa8QHX4wTDxBEaM6lOlgVUa0cFU4/edit?usp=sharing )

Date Sujet#  Auteur
14 Sep 24 * In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,27rhertz
14 Sep 24 +* Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,6LaurenceClarkCrossen
14 Sep 24 i`* Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,5rhertz
14 Sep 24 i +- Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,1Ross Finlayson
14 Sep 24 i +* Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,2Richard Hachel
14 Sep 24 i i`- Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,1Ross Finlayson
15 Sep 24 i `- Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,1Thomas Heger
14 Sep 24 +* Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,11Paul.B.Andersen
14 Sep 24 i+- Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,1Paul.B.Andersen
15 Sep 24 i`* Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,9rhertz
15 Sep 24 i +* Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,7rhertz
15 Sep 24 i i`* Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,6Ross Finlayson
15 Sep 24 i i `* Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,5rhertz
15 Sep 24 i i  `* Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,4LaurenceClarkCrossen
15 Sep 24 i i   `* Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,3Ross Finlayson
15 Sep 24 i i    `* Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,2Ross Finlayson
15 Sep 24 i i     `- Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,1Ross Finlayson
15 Sep 24 i `- Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,1Paul.B.Andersen
16 Sep 24 `* Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,9Mikko
16 Sep 24  `* Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,8rhertz
16 Sep 24   +* Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,5Paul.B.Andersen
16 Sep 24   i+- Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,1Maciej Wozniak
16 Sep 24   i`* Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,3rhertz
17 Sep 24   i `* Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,2Paul.B.Andersen
17 Sep 24   i  `- Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,1LaurenceClarkCrossen
17 Sep 24   +- Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,1Mikko
17 Sep 24   `- Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,1Mikko

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