Den 27.09.2024 22:13, skrev rhertz:
On Fri, 27 Sep 2024 11:53:42 +0000, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
Den 27.09.2024 02:47, skrev rhertz:
Final remarks about why I believe that Paul is a fraudster. Actually, I
think that you are much more stupid than fraudulent.
<snip all the text that you REPEATED from my post>
So I will have repeat the text which was NOT repeated
from your post.
https://paulba.no/paper/Hafele.pdftop of page 268:
"For an equatorial circumnavigation with constant ground speed v (m/s)
and altitude h(m), the predicted relativistic time gain for the flying
clock over a similar reference clock kept at "rest" on the Earth's
surface is given by:
Δτ/τ₀ = (τ - τ₀)/τ₀ = gh/c² - (2RΩv + v²)/2c² (1)
where τ and τ₀ are the respective times recorded by the flying
and ground clocks; R (m) is the Earth's radius and Ω (rad/s) its
angular speed; g(m/s²) is the surface value of the acceleration
of gravity; and c(m/sec) is the speed of light.
In Equation 1, the ground speed is positive for eastward and
negative for westward circumnavigations."
Note that the point with this equation (with constant speed at equator)
is "for estimating the magnitude of expected relativistic effects."
It was obviously not this equation (with constant speed and altitude)
that was used for the calculation of the prediction for all the flights.
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If an aeroplane is flying once around the Earth along equator
with a constant ground speed and altitude, and the duration of
the trip is 65.42 hours as measured by UTC clocks which are
stationary on the ground at the geoid, then the kinematic term
of equation (1) will give the following result:
Paul.B.Andersen wrote:
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The USNO clocks advances τ₀ = 65.42 hours during the 65.42 hours trip,
>
I put the values:
τ₀ = 65.42 h = 235512 s
R = 6378137 m
Ω = 7.2921159e-5 rad/s
c = 299792458 m/s
v = 2πR/τ₀ = +170.16 m/s
>
into THE FORMULA Δτₖ = (-(2RΩv + v²)/2c²)τ₀
and get Δτₖ = -245.32 ns.
>
>
This is the kinematic term, so it is only part of the difference
between the USNO clock and the "flying" clock.
>
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But can you please explain why doing what I did made me a fraudster?
It is obviously idiotic to say that to put numbers
into this theoretical flight is fraudulent.
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Your real blunder is to insist that that H&K used equation (1)
to calculate the predictions for the trips. They did not.
https://paulba.no/paper/Hafele.pdfI quote from page 271:
"Commercial around-the-world flights do not, of course,
maintain constant altitude, latitude, or ground speed.
In this case, it is necessary to perform a numerical integration
of the relativistic equations. The necessary calculation is given by
Δτ = ∫ [gh(τ)/c² - (2RΩ⋅cosλ(τ)⋅cosθ(τ)⋅v(τ) + v²(τ))/2c²]dτ (2)
where, for each interval of the summation, λ is the latitude, θ is
the azimuth or bearing of the plane's velocity relative to east,
and the rest of the symbols have the same meaning as for Equation (1)
(v is the unsigned magnitude of the ground speed in Equation 2;
the azimuth θ accounts for the direction).
"
The eastward trip consisted of 14 flights, and equation (2)
was used for all the flights. When the the clocks were stationary
on the ground Δτ didn't change.
I´LL REPEAT ONE MORE TIME:
YOU CAN'T, UNDER ANY DECENT ASSUMPTION, DARE TO ESTIMATE WHAT WAS THE
ELAPSED TIME AT THE USNO CLOCKS IN WASHINGTON, IF YOU ARE 15,000 MILES
FAR AWAY AND HAVE NOT ANY MEANS (NOT EVEN AS OF TODAY) TO ESTIMATE THE
TIME VALUE OF SUCH REFERENCE CLOCK.
Yes, you can ESTIMATE WHAT IS THE TIME AT THE USNO CLOCKS
IN WASHINGTON, IF YOU ARE 15,000 MILES FAR AWAY.
I keep my wristwatch to within 1 second from UTC +2h, so I can at
any time estimate the time at the USNO clocks within 1 second.
Remember that all clocks showing UTC+n hours are synchronous
in the ECI-frame, even if the precision will vary.
WHEN YOU ASSUME THAT IT'S CORRECT TO ESTIMATE SUCH ELAPSED TIME AS THE
REMOTE FLIGHT TIME PLUS TIME SPENT AT AIRPORTS (65.42 HOURS), YOU ARE
BEYOND CRETINISM, BECAUSE OVER THAT RESULT YOU DARE TO ESTIMATE A 200
NSEC DIFFERENCE WITH THE HAFELE'S CLOCKS.
For estimating the _prediction_ H&K used equation (2) for each flight.
The τ in the equation is the time shown by 'ordinary' clocks on
airport and in planes. When the clocks were stationary on the ground
Δτ didn't change and nothing had to be done.
The point is that the measurement of the duration of each flight
isn't critical, and does not have to be done by an atomic clock.
There are many other parameters (speed,heights etc.) which
are less well known than the time.
In our theoretical flight above, 1 second error in τ₀ would
only give 1 ps error in Δτₖ. So 1 second precision in τ₀
would give Δτₖ = -245.323 ± 0.001 ns
But when H&K _measured_ Δτ the trips were timed with the clocks
at USNO. The start of the trip was when the 4 clocks for the last
time were compared to the USNO clocks before the trip,
the end of the trip was when the 4 clocks for the first time
were compared to the USNO clocks after the trip.
The Δτ was then the difference between the corrected time of
the four clocks and the USNO clock.
WHEN YOU ACCEPT THAT OVER A THEORETICAL VALUE OF 235,512,000,000,000
NSEC ELAPSED AT USNO CLOCKS (VALUE PULLED OUT OF YOUR ASS),
THEORETICALLY CAN ESTIMATE A DIFFERENCE OF 200 NSEC, YOU ARE A LIAR, A
DECEIVER AND A FRAUDSTER.
The _theoretical_ trip with constant speed along equator
lasts 65.42 hours per definition, and Δτₖ = -245.323 ns
CAPITO?
YOUR REPUTATION AS AN IMBECILE IS WRITTEN ALL OVER THE GOOGLE FORUM FOR
MORE THAN 20 YEARS. YOU CAN'T ESCAPE FROM SUCH HISTORY OF YOUR
ADVENTURES HERE. I DON'T KNOW HOW A FRAUDSTER FEEL ABOUT HIMSELF OR HOW
CAN HE LIVE WITH SUCH SHAME, BECAUSE I'M AN HONEST PERSON AND ALWAYS
HAVE BEEN. SOMETHING THAT YOUR PARENTS TEACH, BUT THEY FAILED ON YOU.
:-D
Richard, do you remember this blunder of yours?
Den 16.09.2024 18:32, skrev rhertz:
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2) The satellite clock is PERCEIVED to be ticking slower (from the
Earth's ground) by a factor: Δf/f = Φ/c² = GMe/c² (1/Re - 1/Rs)
with respect to a TWIN CLOCK, located on the Earth's surface.
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Or this?
Den 15.09.2024 03:26, skrev rhertz:
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> As if the above IS NOT ENOUGH, exhaustive experiments done by France
> since 2017 SHOWS (with error <10E-15) that THE EQUIVALENCE PRINCIPLE
> BREAKS AT QUANTUM LEVEL.
>
> As they wrote here:
>
>
https://www.oca.eu/en/news-lagrange/1363-first-results-from-microscope-satellite-confirm-albert-einstein-s-theory-of-relativity-with-unprecedented-precision------------------
Or this?
Den 10.09.2024 07:42, skrev rhertz:
>
WHY THE ASSERTION ABOUT RELATIVITY BEING A PSEUDOSCIENCE? THE FOLLOWING
APPLY:
>
1) As the distance between both reference frames is increasing
constantly, the communication of data between both frames is IMPOSSIBLE
to exist while exchanging information about time and position of both
frames, even using light as a carrier of data. Both origins will be
always out of sync, even when ghost observers, located at both origins,
are trying to communicate between them.
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Or this?
Paul wrote:
GR predicts that the gravitational deflection of em-radiation
by the Sun, observed from the Earth, is:
θ = 2GM/(AU⋅c²)⋅(1+cosφ)/sinφ
Where:
AU= an astronomical unit (distance Sun-Earth)
φ = angle Sun-Earth as observed from the Earth
c = speed of light in vacuum
G = Gravitational constant
M = solar mass
Richard responded.
>
Your formula, that you wrote with sheer cockiness claiming that it's
what GR predicts (false), contain an incredible amount of nonsense. Read
the Mikhailov´s paper, if you want to write meaningful statements
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Or this?
Den 27.09.2024 00:27, skrev rhertz:
Δf/f₀ = gh/c² - [(vˢᵃᵗ)²+ (rΩₑ)²]/2c² ----- Mudrak 2017
Δτ/τ₀ = gh/c² - (2RΩv + v²)/2c² ------------ Hafele 1971
Does it rings any bell on the void of your skull, or should I explain?
Who made a fraudulent approximation in GR using Schwarzschild?
NOW, GO AND HIDE IN SHAME FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS, UNTIL THIS FADES. IT'S
WHAT YOU'VE DONE ALL THESE YEARS, WHEN CAUGHT WITH YOUR LIES OR YOUR
STUPID COMMENTS.
Your well formulated arguments are as lethal as always!
Well done, Richard.
-- Paulhttps://paulba.no/