Re: Oh my God!

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Sujet : Re: Oh my God!
De : tomyee3 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (ProkaryoticCaspaseHomolog)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 03. Oct 2024, 09:00:22
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On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 3:04:17 +0000, gharnagel wrote:

On Wed, 2 Oct 2024 22:26:50 +0000, ProkaryoticCaspaseHomolog wrote:

No. We are NOT obligated always to make ourselves the stationary
observer.
>
By the first principle, we are by necessity,  "We" are always
stationary.  We can have other observers in the lab but "We"
aren't there.  You have put "Us" in three different frames.
>
As to showing the order of events, all those dots are extreme
overkill.

See attached figure 3.

The dots represent spacetime events in S', mapped onto S using the
inverse Lorentz transformation.

In the left panel, the immediate context of the receiving event
includes events 1, 2 and 6.

If, to prevent the formation of causality loops, you apply your speed
limit to superluminal velocities, the immediate context of the
receiving event is shifted to include events 4, 5 and 8.

The context of the receiving event shifts for EVERY observer moving
at a different speed relative to S'. This is absurd.

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