Re: What is "local time"?

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Sujet : Re: What is "local time"?
De : hitlong (at) *nospam* yahoo.com (gharnagel)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 24. Oct 2024, 15:00:09
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On Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:08:53 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>
I've provided about 20 (and after adding zone
times - about 40) examples of grey elephants/
times which are not a part of nature. You've
provided no example of a purple elephant/time
which is a part of nature.
Ah, but I have.  Wozniak can try to hide it but
there it is.
“The truth is incontrovertible.  Malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is.”
 -- Winston Churchill
Wozniak presents examples of ONE definition of time,
which does not refute other possible definitions.  Words
often have more than one definition and this is true
of the word "time."  The dictionary presents several:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/time
Our attempts to measure time (clocks) are what Wozniak
is talking about:
"a: the measured or measurable period during which an
action, process, or condition exists or continues"
But the very fact that trying to measure time with human
inventions is evidence that what we are trying to measure
is something else, which is also referred to as time.
Clocks are analogous to maps, and as maps are not the
territory, clocks are not this:
"b: a nonspatial continuum that is measured in terms of
events which succeed one another from past through present
to future"
which is not a human invention, as evidenced by our not
being able to fully understand it.
https://www.quantamagazine.org/what-is-the-nature-of-time-20240229/

You even admit yourself - you know little
about the subject.
Of course, only stupid or arrogant people think they're smart.
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and
you are the easiest person to fool." -- Richard P. Feynman
“I'm smart enough to know that I'm dumb.” -- Richard P. Feynman

But, being a DK idiot
“If you’re incompetent, you can’t know you’re incompetent.
[…] the skills you need to produce a right answer are exactly
the skills you need to recognize what a right answer is.”
 —David Dunning
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
Wozniak has demonstrated no competency in any of his posts,
so he shouldn't be casting stones.  We have Merriam-Webster
above which shows that Wozniak's definition of time is not
unique.
Wozniak claimed 40 examples of his definition.  If he wanted
to make it a pissing match, how many dictionaries are there
in the world?  More than 40? :-))
- you still act as if you knew everything.
“The more you know, the dumber you sound to stupid people.”
-- Anonymous

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