Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.

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Sujet : Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.
De : film.art (at) *nospam* gmail.com (JanPB)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 12. Nov 2024, 13:54:16
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On Wed, 6 Nov 2024 21:50:21 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:

General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.
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It ditches it.
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According to special relativity time dilation is caused by relative
motion per se.
Not "caused" but "is correlated to". We do not know the cause.

This has been rightly criticized as self-contradictory.
It's not self-contradictory, hence it cannot be criticised in
this way.

General relativity says the clock that is accelerating is time dilating.
This makes the cause absolute motion and not relative motion.
Again, this is not a "cause" but a correlation. Regardless, you
introduced a false dichotomy. What both special and general relativity
say is the same: proper time is the trajectory arc length. The rest
(time dilation, etc.) are related to a coordinate choice and the
choice of a simultaneity criterion. This criterion can be arbitrary and
different for typical special and general relativistic concepts.
There is nothing contradictory about that, it's like preferring the
geographic north to the magnetic north (or vice-versa) as your
angle of reference, depending on your needs.

Therefore, GR ditches SR, which is a distinctly different and false
theory.
No. BTW, whenever you end up in a cul-de-sac like this, always ask
yourself: "This is a trivial observation, so the probability that
nobody had not noticed it before is exactly ZERO. Therefore,
I'm probably making a mistake somewhere."
You won't get much progress in this business by fantasising.
--
Jan

Date Sujet#  Auteur
6 Nov 24 * General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.41LaurenceClarkCrossen
6 Nov 24 +* Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.11Ross Finlayson
7 Nov 24 i+* Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.8LaurenceClarkCrossen
12 Nov 24 ii`* Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.7JanPB
12 Nov 24 ii +- Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.1Ross Finlayson
13 Nov 24 ii `* Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.5J. J. Lodder
13 Nov 24 ii  +* Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.2LaurenceClarkCrossen
14 Nov 24 ii  i`- Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.1J. J. Lodder
13 Nov 24 ii  +- Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.1Ross Finlayson
14 Nov 24 ii  `- Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.1Maciej Wozniak
7 Nov 24 i`* Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.2LaurenceClarkCrossen
7 Nov 24 i `- Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.1Ross Finlayson
6 Nov 24 +* Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.7LaurenceClarkCrossen
7 Nov 24 i`* Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.6Ross Finlayson
7 Nov 24 i `* Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.5LaurenceClarkCrossen
7 Nov 24 i  +- Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.1Ross Finlayson
12 Nov 24 i  `* Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.3JanPB
13 Nov 24 i   `* Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.2LaurenceClarkCrossen
13 Nov 24 i    `- Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.1Ross Finlayson
12 Nov 24 +* Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.2JanPB
12 Nov 24 i`- Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.1Maciej Wozniak
13 Nov 24 +* Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.17LaurenceClarkCrossen
13 Nov 24 i+* Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.15LaurenceClarkCrossen
14 Nov 24 ii+- Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.1Maciej Wozniak
14 Nov 24 ii+* Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.2LaurenceClarkCrossen
15 Nov 24 iii`- Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.1Paul.B.Andersen
14 Nov 24 ii+* Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.4LaurenceClarkCrossen
15 Nov 24 iii`* Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.3Ross Finlayson
15 Nov 24 iii `* Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.2Ross Finlayson
16 Nov 24 iii  `- Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.1Ross Finlayson
15 Nov 24 ii+* Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.6LaurenceClarkCrossen
15 Nov 24 iii+* Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.4LaurenceClarkCrossen
16 Nov 24 iiii`* Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.3LaurenceClarkCrossen
17 Nov 24 iiii `* Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.2ProkaryoticCaspaseHomolog
17 Nov 24 iiii  `- Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.1Maciej Wozniak
16 Nov 24 iii`- Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.1LaurenceClarkCrossen
15 Nov 24 ii`- Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.1LaurenceClarkCrossen
13 Nov 24 i`- Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.1LaurenceClarkCrossen
13 Nov 24 `* Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.3Sylvia Else
13 Nov 24  +- Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.1Maciej Wozniak
13 Nov 24  `- Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.1Richard Hachel

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