Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.

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Sujet : Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.
De : mlwozniak (at) *nospam* wp.pl (Maciej Wozniak)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 13. Nov 2024, 23:40:45
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W dniu 13.11.2024 o 17:59, J. J. Lodder pisze:
JanPB <film.art@gmail.com> wrote:
 
On Wed, 6 Nov 2024 22:39:18 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:
>
Reasonable defense by a relativist: Dingle refuted the alleged cause of
relative motion for time dilation of special relativity. Time dilation
is a part of GR, not SR.
>
Dingle's mistake was assuming a direct cause. But it may be that
the two are merely *correlated* by a *common indirect cause*.
>
In physics situations like this arose many times. For example,
Maxwell's theory required equipping EM fields with their own
momentum and angular momentum (otherwise the conservation laws
would fail). Nobody knew what the seat of that momentum was.
This was only modelled much later in quantum electrodynamics.
>
It's very likely that time dilation, etc., are similarly conditioned
phenomena. We still don't have the right model for the underlying
causes.
 This is highly unlikely.
Time dilation seems to be an inherent property
of the space-time we find ourselves in.
It surely is  an inherent property
  of the space-time you find yourselves
in.  It has just nothing in common with
the reality, anyone can check GPS, time
(as defined by your idiot guru himself)
is galilean.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
6 Nov 24 * General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.41LaurenceClarkCrossen
6 Nov 24 +* Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.11Ross Finlayson
7 Nov 24 i+* Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.8LaurenceClarkCrossen
12 Nov 24 ii`* Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.7JanPB
12 Nov 24 ii +- Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.1Ross Finlayson
13 Nov 24 ii `* Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.5J. J. Lodder
13 Nov 24 ii  +* Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.2LaurenceClarkCrossen
14 Nov 24 ii  i`- Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.1J. J. Lodder
13 Nov 24 ii  +- Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.1Ross Finlayson
14 Nov 24 ii  `- Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.1Maciej Wozniak
7 Nov 24 i`* Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.2LaurenceClarkCrossen
7 Nov 24 i `- Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.1Ross Finlayson
6 Nov 24 +* Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.7LaurenceClarkCrossen
7 Nov 24 i`* Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.6Ross Finlayson
7 Nov 24 i `* Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.5LaurenceClarkCrossen
7 Nov 24 i  +- Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.1Ross Finlayson
12 Nov 24 i  `* Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.3JanPB
13 Nov 24 i   `* Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.2LaurenceClarkCrossen
13 Nov 24 i    `- Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.1Ross Finlayson
12 Nov 24 +* Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.2JanPB
12 Nov 24 i`- Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.1Maciej Wozniak
13 Nov 24 +* Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.17LaurenceClarkCrossen
13 Nov 24 i+* Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.15LaurenceClarkCrossen
14 Nov 24 ii+- Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.1Maciej Wozniak
14 Nov 24 ii+* Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.2LaurenceClarkCrossen
15 Nov 24 iii`- Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.1Paul.B.Andersen
14 Nov 24 ii+* Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.4LaurenceClarkCrossen
15 Nov 24 iii`* Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.3Ross Finlayson
15 Nov 24 iii `* Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.2Ross Finlayson
16 Nov 24 iii  `- Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.1Ross Finlayson
15 Nov 24 ii+* Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.6LaurenceClarkCrossen
15 Nov 24 iii+* Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.4LaurenceClarkCrossen
16 Nov 24 iiii`* Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.3LaurenceClarkCrossen
17 Nov 24 iiii `* Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.2ProkaryoticCaspaseHomolog
17 Nov 24 iiii  `- Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.1Maciej Wozniak
16 Nov 24 iii`- Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.1LaurenceClarkCrossen
15 Nov 24 ii`- Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.1LaurenceClarkCrossen
13 Nov 24 i`- Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.1LaurenceClarkCrossen
13 Nov 24 `* Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.3Sylvia Else
13 Nov 24  +- Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.1Maciej Wozniak
13 Nov 24  `- Re: General Relativity Does Not Rescue Special Relativity.1Richard Hachel

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