Re: Want to prove E=mc²? University labs should try this!

On Sun, 17 Nov 2024 0:46:05 +0000, rhertz wrote:

Current "state of the art" weighting technology (expensive) can measure
about 1 nanogram of MASS.
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I asked ChatGPT this question:
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"If I use a high precision laser having 5 Watts steady power for 72
hours, injecting the light into an almost perfect reflective cavity
(more than 99% of reflectivity), can I prove that the internal MASS
increased as
m=E/c² states?
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ChatGPT answered this:
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Conclusion
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If the laser operates for 72 hours, the theoretical mass increase inside
the cavity is approximately 14.4 picograms, but in practice, the
steady-state energy inside the cavity will be significantly lower due to
losses. Proving this mass increase experimentally would require an
exceptionally controlled setup and cutting-edge measurement tools. While
it is a challenging experiment, its successful execution would provide a
novel confirmation of m=E/c² in an optical context!
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I simplify calculations here:
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5 Watts x 72 Hr =    1,296,000 Joules (Kg.m²/s²)
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MASS increase in 72 Hr =   1.0368 μgrams of MASS
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WEIGHT INCREASE =    1.007 μgrams of WEIGHT ≈ 1.007E-09 Newtons
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ChatGPT WARNINGS:
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Challenges in Proving the Mass Increase
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While the mass increase is theoretically calculable, there are practical
hurdles:
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1. Energy Retention in the Cavity
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Steady-State Limit: A laser does not continuously add energy to a cavity
indefinitely. After a certain time, the energy inside the cavity
stabilizes at a steady state determined by:
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E(stored) = P(laser)/P(loss) x τ
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τ is the cavity’s photon lifetime.
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Real cavities lose energy through mirror transmission, scattering, and
absorption. Even with highly reflective mirrors (99.999%), steady-state
energy may be orders of magnitude smaller than the total energy
delivered by the laser.
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2. Balance Sensitivity
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Mass Changes: To measure a steady increase up to 1.0368 μgrams of MASS,
you would need an extremely sensitive device like an electromagnetic
balance or other precision mass measurement tools with sub-μgram
sensitivity.
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Current state-of-the-art balances can detect mass changes at this scale,
but such measurements are delicate and require isolation from
vibrations, air currents, and thermal effects.
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3. Environmental Interference
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Thermal Effects: Energy absorption by mirrors or cavity components can
cause thermal expansion or convection currents that might mimic a weight
change.
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Radiation Pressure: The laser light exerts a tiny force on the mirrors,
which might introduce additional complications.
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4. Loss Compensation
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Not all the laser energy is stored. The difference between the laser's
energy input and the cavity’s steady-state energy is lost as heat,
scattered light, or transmitted light. This loss must be carefully
accounted for to isolate the contribution of stored energy to the mass
increase.
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Experimental Considerations to maximize your chances of success:
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High-Q Cavity: Use ultra-high-reflectivity mirrors to maximize energy
retention and reduce losses.
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Sensitive Instrumentation: Employ a precision electromagnetic balance
capable of detecting picogram-scale changes.
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Environmental Isolation: Perform the experiment in a vacuum chamber and
on an isolated platform to reduce noise.
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Calibration: Account for all sources of error, including thermal effects
and laser power fluctuations.
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BUT WHAT REALLY MATTERS HERE IS THAT THE AI ENGINE CONFIRMED THAT NOBODY
IN THE ENTIRE SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY HAS EVEN TRIED EXPERIMENTS OF THIS
SORT, WHICH ARE CONCEPTUALLY SIMPLE!
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WHY, I ASK? MAYBE THE RESULTS COULD BE SHOCKING!
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With a little of ingenuity, you could try this at home, using a
DIFFERENTIAL ELECTROMAGNETIC BALANCE. Here is a guide:
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Homemade Microgram Electrobalance
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https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/equipment/scale.html
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You should add a DIFFERENTIAL BALANCE, with two cavities (one with the
laser turned off).
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Here is a company that sells microgram balances ($10,000 and up), mainly
for Big Pharma companies.
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https://www.mt.com/us/en/home/products/Laboratory_Weighing_Solutions/microbalances/ultra-micro-balance.html
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HEY!, THERE IS A CHANCE THAT YOU CAN CONFIRM OR DISPROVE E=mc².
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AND BY DISPROVING IT, RELATIVITY GOES TO THE TRASH BIN. ALL OF IT, AND
DERIVATIONS APPLIED ALL OVER THE REALM OF PHYSICS!

E=mc^2 assumes that equal masses contain equal energy regardless of the
substance. This seems plainly false to start with, ipso facto.